Pelosi: Obama can’t control Putin

thehill.com ^ | July 27, 2014 | Julian Hattem

[Tailgunner Joe]

No, he's not. He's in love with them. His mistress is a Tatar muslim.

Putin appointed Ramzan Kadyrov, the jihadist son of the Chechen mufti, as Sultan for life of Chechnya and paid him billions as tribute to rebuild Chechnya. Kadyrov is instituting sharia law on Russian soil with Putin's blessing, and has built the largest mosque in Europe there.

Putin has never attacked any muslim nation. He is at war with his Christian neighbors and he sends Chechen muslims to kill Orthodox Christians in Georgia and Ukraine.

[Hugin]

“now the West must surrender”

So if we don’t “control” Russia and determine what happens in former Soviet territory, we’re surrendering? That’s insane.

[ansel12]

If NATO is too weak to defend the world from Russia, then they must submit to your goal, and Russia’s expansionism.

That is why Finland and Sweden are considering joining NATO, because they too fear Russia’s conquest of empire.

[Hugin]

You simultaneously say Russia is weak and on the verge of collapse, and yet it’s a threat to conquer the entire world, when they have done nothing beyond the borders of the old USSR. Given the fact that Russia has been invaded multiple times throughout their history, and now people like you want to “control” them, they have every reason to be worried about NATO expanding into their former territory.

I’m not a fan of Putin. He’s a thug, but most world leaders are. I have no “goal”, other than keeping the hell out of it. If the Ukrainians value their independence they are capable of defending it themselves.

[ansel12]

I didn't say that they are on the verge of collapse, they are vastly weaker than they were when they were a massive and evil empire when I was last in the military and part of NATO, and they talked like you still do now, calling resistance to their invasions and conquest, "controlling" them.

You do have a side as Russia moves to empire, you support it.

You are calling for the free world to stay out of them reconquering "Soviet Territory, which of course includes many NATO countries.

"So if we don’t “control” Russia and determine what happens in former Soviet territory, we’re surrendering? That’s insane."