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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

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To: Alas Babylon!
Oh fer Gosh sakes! Right here is a prime example of Truther911-thought; pure Alex Jones, forward by Jesse “The Body” Ventura.

What's this Ventura award for, my speculation on route diversion as a conspiracy?

Just interested.

561 posted on 07/17/2014 4:24:05 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: floriduh voter

Correct self: Barry was joking around 30 seconds after he found out. Delaware transportation fake townhall.


562 posted on 07/17/2014 4:31:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter (ERIC CANTOR, buh bye!)
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To: JimSEA
>>>>>Whether or not Russia did it, the ball is in Putin’s court.<<<<<<

Putin's plane with Putin on board returning from Brazil was the target. According to some reports, Ukrainian jet who downed MH17 was also shot down.

KH17 black box is in Moscow.

The deafening silence from NATO peanut gallery.

The context: An alternative to IMF banksters was created. They got nervous and hired a gunslinger who can not shoot straight. Sinking of battleship Maine is perhaps better analogy.

Dangerous times, one way or another.

563 posted on 07/17/2014 4:34:35 PM PDT by DTA
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To: lodi90

Girkin is an unleased asset. A very trigger happy asset.

WHOSE asset depends on who is paying the most.


564 posted on 07/17/2014 4:37:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: DTA
Putin's plane with Putin on board returning from Brazil was the target. According to some reports, Ukrainian jet who downed MH17 was also shot down.

Nice recovery from the people who convinced a good chunk of the world that the CIA invented AIDS to kill non-whites.

565 posted on 07/17/2014 4:38:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: kabar
>>>>Why today and not some other day?<<<<<

An honest mistake. Ukrainian AF thought it is Putin's plane.

Perhaps the first ocurrence of transponder spoofing.

566 posted on 07/17/2014 4:43:07 PM PDT by DTA
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To: mware
>>>>>Just reported the pilot made the decision to fly over that region.<<<<<<<<<<

The question is : WHY?

567 posted on 07/17/2014 4:46:01 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Kennard

YUP.


568 posted on 07/17/2014 4:46:31 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Death toll of the MH17 shoot down, is upped to 298, adding three infants...it gets worse...per FNC’s Gerta....


569 posted on 07/17/2014 4:52:38 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: caww

The scum you have been cheering on and spreading disinformation for have just killed 300 civilians including 23 Americans, that is treason in my book.


570 posted on 07/17/2014 5:10:00 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: McGruff

You find this funny Ruskie? Those are dead Americans your rebel buddies just killed.


571 posted on 07/17/2014 5:12:47 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: DTA

Yes, because it’s totally believable that Putin would fly his private jet over Ukrainian airspace nowadays.

Ukrainian AF were just waiting to shoot Putin’s jet down the next time he flew across Ukraine on one of his usual jaunts. Not.


572 posted on 07/17/2014 5:15:03 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: CMB_polarization
From the following discussion:

There's a Buk SAM in Snezhnoe. It was relocated to Snezhnoe after government airstrikes demolished parts of the town

I think you'll find that this is a rebel launch and not Ukrainian or Russian.

A trained (even poorly trained) operator would have all the overhead track management data and would seek permission to shoot - the permission would only come once the military was able to confirm that it wasn't commercial - and the element of doubt would immediately be in place as its a known air corridor

military trained operators would have noticed that object being tracked was civil (they overlay commercial flight tracks as part of track management and object separation)

that aircraft on a military system would NOT have been coming up as anything BUT commercial

untrained operators using big boys toys - and supplied by the russians

they have a hell of a lot of explaining to do - and more so as they don't have the gear to interrogate the black box, so the longer they hold onto it, the more suspicious everyone will be of what they did to supply Buks to the rebels


573 posted on 07/17/2014 5:15:05 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: WildSnail
>>>>>>Audio with english subtitles of intercepted communication here at youtube<<<<<

here is the proof on CD

574 posted on 07/17/2014 5:15:49 PM PDT by DTA
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To: free_life
You find this funny Ruskie? Those are dead Americans your rebel buddies just killed.

Any Russian or Russophile would find this a cause for celebration. The first large-scale killing of Americans at Russian hands since KAL 007.

575 posted on 07/17/2014 5:17:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: CMB_polarization

Overheard on the interwebs:
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/europe-russia/65334-ukraine-after-may-25-election-21.html#post971212


Oh, and for the ‘this plane shouldn’t have been there’ crowd, it was flying at something like 11,000 meters and was apparently one of hundreds of aircraft flying over Ukraine at the time. It is an extremely busy air route from Asia to Europe and clearly no one thought that civilian airliners at 11,000 meters were at risk. They should not have been.


576 posted on 07/17/2014 5:20:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: free_life

You find this funny Ruskie? Those are dead Americans your rebel buddies just killed


Exactly. Russophile/armchair isolationist/ alex jones truther tin foil hat types can’t process this fact. This isn’t a parlor game. Hundreds of people were killed today by Russia.


577 posted on 07/17/2014 5:22:09 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: DTA

But why didn’t he change the title to Blue-Haired Hawaii? There’s something wrong there.


578 posted on 07/17/2014 5:24:20 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: free_life

Your hero Obama thought it was funny.

President Barack Obama provoked fury in the U.S. on Thursday by casually devoting less than a minute to the deaths of 295 people aboard a Malaysian airliner, as he began an often jokey 16-minute speech about the need to expand America’s transportation infrastructure.

There are no confirmed American dead, an earlier Reuters report claimed that it was feared that as many as 23 U.S. citizens had perished.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.html#ixzz37m7lzUvt
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579 posted on 07/17/2014 5:26:05 PM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: SeekAndFind; kristinn
The map doesn’t show any of those routes flying over the Russia-Ukraine border

The Amsterdam route goes right over Sevastopol, and there was a warning to avoid flying over occupied Crimea, and especially Russian military base in Sevastopol.

It looks like an evasive action. See Kristinn's map at 91 for another airline.

580 posted on 07/17/2014 5:28:24 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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