Posted on 07/11/2014 7:42:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
Pay market prices for labor, labor being us, the American people that are this nation.
Horse Hooey...
Any business that cannot find Americans to work is full of Horse Hooey
Folks like the Chamber of Communists are Economic Anti-American
Well stated.
What f___ing BS!!!! High tech companies want techno coolies to do work that US college tech grads will do (but at 1/3 salary). Computer World just did an article about techno coolies hired by Silicon Valley firms. If we truly have a shortage of tech workers, then let us do it by the free market way and not sponsor H-1B fraught with indenture conditions. Example, if we need tech skill A, then let us immigrate tech skill A people. Let that immigrant throw out his resume listing the badly needed skills and let the American firms make offers to hire him. That is not how corporate America wants it done. They want H-1 applicants. The process works like this. Google secures 100 H-1 VISA. Google HR calls their handlers in China and ask them to recruit 100 Chinese IT workers for a fee. The Chinese handlers fill the 100 slots with Chinese tech workers by offering to do their paperwork to come to the US. In return they work for the US company on the H-1B application for seven years at a salary that is 1/3 of US worker he will replace. During those seven years, the Chinese worker cannot take better offers and jump companies. The Chinese worker is told make their American employer happy and do not ever get fired before the 7 year term is up, otherwise someone in his family in China owes the handlers for the application costs. Debt collectors will come to family home with hammers (ie someone will have his legs broken). That is H-1B in a nutshell. The US already is paying for the fact they did not learn how to pick their own cotton, now US software companies are repeating history with their own version of slavery. For free trading freepers remember this when the PLA builds high tech weapons and sink the ship that your son or grandson is serving on. Wonder how they learn to make such good electronics and the software that guides it??? Corporate capitalist bastards.
Thomas Donohue, CEO of the Chamber of Commerce, is a traitor.
The Chamber of Commerce wants slaves. Politicians want more people who tolerate corrupt government. It’s a win-win for them.
Democrats want illegal alien invaders for the votes, Republicans want illegal alien invaders because they can pay them below minimum wage and they won’t complain.....sovereignty be damned.
There are plenty of workers, they just want to pay less.
Yes, but it will backfire.
They will be given citizenship or some status that gives the the rights of citizenship.
So what then?
With that status, they will go on welfare, or a significant number of them will, and that will keep the labor pool undersized just as it is now.
There are two things that will cure the labor problem.
Get the government out of education so kids can learn.
And cut welfare off for every single person now on it other than those that are truly incapable of work...mentally handicapped, physically handicapped...such as stroke victims, heart cases, smashed up in crashes, etc.
What are ya....kidding?
The place is crawling with parasites....cut off their freebies and let them "work for food" make homelessness obsolete.
Raze the ghettos and plant crops.
But business care mostly about computer programmers. And there are almost no American programmers. The starting salary for a programmer with a college degree in Computer Science and no experience is $80,000.
America does not have enough programmers and those with Sociology degrees, or English degrees or History degrees can not be turned into programmers.
Programmers who are valuable have lots of math and logic at an early age. You can wipe out most Americans right there. India and China have lots of these people and American companies pay them $80,000 even when they don't speak English. But the government lowered the number of H1 visas for these people in the 2001 recession. And they have never raised it. These people create jobs. They do not take them.
If you wish to higher Americans. Then you need to fire teachers. Too many teachers have no ability to teach math or technical subjects. Computer programming could be taught in 5th grade. But the public school teachers (and most of the private school teachers) have no abilities in these areas.
So let the highly educated math and computer science foreigners in. Stop everyone else. And fire half the teachers.
Millennials in the Workplace Training Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8
The Chamber of Commerce lackeys can’t find enough workers who will work for the low wages they want to pay.
“If you wish to higher Americans. “
Huh?
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Get no argument from me. Even though I think there are other disciplines that could benefit the US in the long run besides those with math and computer skills.
“There are plenty of workers, they just want to pay less.”
Exactly.
Stop the generational welfare and they would be amazed how many available workers suddenly appear.
“It is not cut rate wages that has stopped the availability of workers......it’s just that they can get too near welfare wages in the workplace to bother to actually work for nearly the same money.”
IMHO, both arguments are valid, and are not mutually exclusive.
That’s true in many cases I’m sure. My kids are millennials. As kids they are pretty spoiled. But my son just out of freshman college has his first real job other than working for me.
He’s a good worker. They called him up this morning to see if he could come in early - he did. They called him tonight to see if he can work two shifts tomorrow. He will. (He was used to working 12-hour plus days on end with me).
I did remind him not to use his cell phone during work. He looked at me like I was nuts. “Dad - I barely have have time to take a leak!”.
My reaction exactly. ;-)
Tell that to Tyson!
‘But business care mostly about computer programmers. And there are almost no American programmers.’
I don't know about that. It seems to me that I have heard of a great deal of programmers that have trained their own replacements from China and India.
As for the STEM. There are millions of private and Parochial school trained students who are more than proficient in Science, Technology and Math when they leave High School. I knew many that finish college and went to work for a big company only to end up being shuffled out the door in a decade to make way for a cheaper, younger model who doesn't seem to demand time for kids and home life.
H1B1 is legalized slavery. Businesses basically hold the Visa holder hostage. The Chinese ones are all here to pilfer knowledge to take back to the land of Mao and use that knowledge against us in the future. If they don't come back their family get hurt.
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