Posted on 05/27/2014 5:32:13 PM PDT by Sam Troy
It is the media preparing the ground to attack Ted Cruz, IMO.
“What happens politically if there is a crisis in his native Panama? Anything he says or does, or fails to say or do will be criticized based on the perception that his judgment with regards to his place of birth is colored by his personal connection and bias towards or against it.”
I’m guessing you were never a military dependent.
McCain is not a native of Panama; he’s a native of the U.S. Navy. (But one cannot forget that nasty business in Hanoi.) Dependents rarely if ever develop a connection with any of the places they spend a couple of years.
Get around dependents sometime. They don’t ask “have you lived in Japan?” “Have you lived in Germany?”
They ask, “Were you at the Marine base at Iwakuni?” “Were you at Frankfurt am Main?” (Meaning the base.) They don’t go to the local Japanese school. They don’t go to the local German school. They go to school on base. Library, movie theater, swimming pool, restaurants, commissary—all on base.
You’re worried about children like my older four, who attended school in Japan, who are more comfortable in the Japanese culture than the American. There might be some legitimate grounds for worry there.
Not with military dependents.
OOOps, I see you were a military dependent. Not paying close enough attention; sorry.
But then you should know.
Oh I do. We moved so often I ache for a place to call home. It takes me five minutes to answer whenever anyone asks “Where you from?”
“It takes me five minutes to answer whenever anyone asks “Where you from?”
Ditto.
Null and void is correct in this statement.
Children born abroad of American parents are, by law, citizens.
Null and void is correct in this statement.
A Natural Born Citizen needs no law to declare them a citizen.
However, the implication that a citizen is also a natural born citizen is incorrect.
The only way a candidate is a natural born citizen is if both parents were American born.
The founder’s requirement for a natural born presidential candidate refers to the parents’ place of birth, not the candidate’s place of birth.
The reason the founders added the natural born requirement was to avoid any possibility of a conflict of allegiance between America and the country of a parent’s birth. The founders didn’t place that same restriction on any other elected office.
There is an aspect of a presidential election that may not be readily apparent. There is no government appointed entity tasked with verifying the validity of a candidate’s birth. The constitutional conditions that a candidate must fulfill are based on the honor system. The verification is up to the voters to sort out. A candidate who is a convicted murderer, a serial rapist, or a felon for any reason can run for the office of president IF he is a natural born citizen over 35 years of age. It is up to the voters to decide to elect him or not.
Enough said!
Thanks, Arthur McGowan, for making those points!
Sam Troy,
See your FRmail
See your FRmail...
OTOH, can honestly I tell them that although I lived on Oahu, I’ve never been to the state of Hawaii...
I don’t see any!
“OTOH, can honestly I tell them that although I lived on Oahu, I’ve never been to the state of Hawaii...”
Having been to a place is one thing; being a native of a place is quite different.
but that's not important now.*
You missed that although I lived on Oahu, I've never been to the state of Hawaii.
* thereby setting the legal precedent for nationwide sharia law, that's when it becomes important...
Ok, I sent them again just now.
“You missed that although I lived on Oahu, I’ve never been to the state of Hawaii.”
No, I figured you lived there before Hawaii was a state.
Excellent! Almost no one gets that, even native born Hawaiians!
“Almost no one gets that, even native born Hawaiians!”
Well, I remember getting the oversized “Dennis the Menace” comic that commemorated statehood. It’s where I learned about poi.
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