Perry on Bush's 'Act of Love' Remarks: Sympathize w/Illegals who Break Laws to Help Their Families

Breitbart's Big Government ^ | April 23, 2014 | Tony Lee

[South40]

Your throwing up a smoke screen to protect Perry and then offer hyperbolic solutions that you know will never see the light of day or are just plain pathetic,.

Yup. 90% effective isn't good enough for RINO Rick so his faithful followers blindly agree. They then suggest other strategies they know will never be employed...like landmines. They seek to keep the borders open. Heck, even RINO Rick is on record as saying he "embraces" Vicente Fox's vision of an open border. So we know where his/their allegiance lies.

In this thread we have heard excuses for opposition to fencing like "tunnels" and "differing terrain". We know fences work as the fence in SD has proven it. As for the terrain...

[Altura Ct.]

And those of us who oppose it for whatever reason are doing for no less reason. To protect our families and communities.

[BuckeyeTexan]

90% effective? Um, no.

“In fact, the Border Patrol’s own statistics show that the border walls have not brought about a decrease in illegal entries. The border patrol uses the number of border crossers apprehended in a given sector to gauge the overall number of attempted crossings. Apprehensions dropped dramatically between 2005, the year before the Secure Fence Act was passed, and 2007, the year after.

But the decrease did not occur in areas where border walls had been built. On the contrary, the greatest reductions in apprehensions, which according to the Border Patrol would indicate a successful strategy for stopping undocumented immigration, were seen in sectors that did not have walls.

Texas’ Rio Grande Valley sector saw a 45.3% decrease in apprehensions, bringing them to a 15 year low. The Del Rio, Texas, sector saw a 66.5% decrease. Neither sector had an inch of border wall before 2008. In sectors such as Tucson, which saw walls built shortly after passage of the Secure Fence Act, the reduction in apprehensions began before any wall posts were erected.

The areas that saw an increase in crossings were California’s San Diego and El Centro sectors, both of which have had border walls for over a decade. At the same time that the unwalled border witnessed dramatic decreases in crossings, heavily fortified San Diego saw a 20.1% increase.”

That 90% nonsense appears to be, well, nonsense.

[South40]

That 90% nonsense appears to be, well, nonsense.

Your defense of Perry's opposition to fencing has become well, laughable.

"Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing."

source

[DH]

Remember when Regan gave amnesty to the vermin from the south of our border? What happened?

Well, what happened even more came illegally into our country because they knew that eventually the government would offer another amnesty in the future and they wanted to be here when it happened.

WELL! It’s going to happen no matter what because of the simple fact that those original criminals have bred like rats and now the population of “legal” criminals (the spawn thereof) have grown up and now vote along with their parents for.....DEMOCRATS!

Right now....the border is seething with criminals coming from the south in expectation of the new amnesty that will come as sure as the sun rises in the morning...due to political correctness.

Each year we become less and less disciplined to live within the laws we have on the books or which is anchored within the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We are a society that is like a spoiled child....”if you don’t want to eat your spinach, you don’t have to.” Don’t like a law, simply ignore it.

Now we have moved from having a President to acceptance of a KING Mo-Fo.

[ek_hornbeck]

"I have sympathy. I totally understand about people breaking a law to take care of their family," Perry said, noting that that was especially the case when the United States has, in his opinion, essentially told Mexicans for 40 years, "come on over, its okay, don't worry about breaking the law."

Does Rick Perry also "have sympathy for" and "understand" thieves who steal money or property? After all, many thieves are also "just trying to take care of their families."

[BuckeyeTexan]

The text I quoted was a direct refutation of that 2006 NPR article. Maybe you can understand a picture better than text.

New York Times graphic

Again, between 2005 and 2007, which includes your 2006 NPR hogwash, the San Diego sector saw a 20% increase. According to U.S. Border Patrol numbers, apprehensions in 2006 in San Diego were over 100,000 not 5,000 as asserted by NPR.

Try again - This time without a Rick-Perry strawman. Oh wait, you can't. Rick Perry is all you got.

[BuckeyeTexan]

“Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work,” Henry says. “It is highly effective.”

20% increase in illegals = “highly effective”

Got it.

[TADSLOS]

Perry also said he is seriously thinking about running for president....

Seriously? Lol.

[turducken]

It's nice to know that the democrats and republicans are now in complete agreement on the topic of illegals

Time for a third party that represents us outdated law-and-order types.

[deport]

Drive across border fence crossing.

[mylife]

Another issue is that the busiest corridor for illegals is the
Tohono O’odham Indian reservation in Az.
It runs from Mexico to Tucson.
It is a sovereign nation and has treaties with the US Gov.
The Tohono nation will not allow and US authority into their territory.
They are taking money from the Coyotes and the drug runners.

Boy you think folks are upset about Clive Bundy?
Just let the gov muck with the Indians and see what happens in the court of public opinion.

I am not justifying it, I am just explaining the complexity of the problem.

[This Just In]

“Punish the source.”

That’s absurd. Secure the borders. If you were to enact sanctions or some sort of “punishment”, as you suggest, this wouldn’t stop people from crossing the borders.

[mylife]

So we should take over private land to make people happy?

Cut off their cattle from the Rio Grande?.

[South40]

The New York Times? lol! It’s no wonder you are so pathetically uninformed.

You may not know this so I will inform you. Not all of San Diego has fencing. Much of Eastern San Diego County does not. It is the height of stupidity to believe that the areas with fencing have increased by any amount. We know, in fact, that the areas with fencing have decreased decreased illegal border crossings in excess of 90%. That is because the existing fencing has moved the illegal crossings further east where fencing does not exist. Complete the fencing and the same benefits realized where it now exists will be achieved there as well.

I am done with your circular argument. Fences work and that is a proven fact. But you keep defending Mumbles Perry and his opposition to them; just don’t try it with me because I know better. Cheers.

[BuckeyeTexan]

It is the height of stupidity to believe that the areas with fencing have increased by any amount.

Those figures are directly from the U.S. Border patrol. Clearly, they know more than you.

But you keep defending Mumbles Perry and his opposition to them;

I haven't mentioned Rick Perry. Every other word out of your mouth is "Perry" though. It seems you have some sort of sick fixation on him. Seek professional help.

[ObamahatesPACoal]

The illegals who just walk up and claim asylum where are they counted. That’s not because the fence is weak. That is because they walk up and demand asylum.

You build the fences longer. Then the illegals have to walk further out and only smaller and smaller groups of them can walk through the desert to get caught by border patrol.

It was funny that Rick Perry thinks millions of Mexicans are going to self-deport because thousands of oil jobs will open up in Mexico.

They’ll only leave when the jobs and freebies are cut off.