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Op-Ed Gets USMC Commandant’s Attention, Sparks Change for Women
Seapower ^ | April 1, 2014 | OTTO KREISHER

Posted on 04/08/2014 8:07:42 AM PDT by don-o

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To: don-o

Yeah,,, in the old corps, can you imagine failing a school and whining about USMC policies in a Washington Post Op Ed?
I’m not even sure WHAT would have happened to such an idiot,,,


21 posted on 04/08/2014 8:38:00 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Pietro

Agreed. Those terms mean a certain change in standards.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 8:39:15 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jarhead9297
You take this stuff up with the COC not smatter it on the pages of a newspaper.

Jarhead, I knew that before I graduated from college. Long story short: after being cleared in an investigation on charges I was staging a "mass protest" over the selection of the next cadet battalion commander, the school newspaper wanted to interview me for their last issue of the school year.

I told them "hell no!", because I knew they had an anti-military agenda, and I would merely be a pawn in their game. Additionally, I just wanted to move on with my life after a month of being in the crosshairs of that investigation. Imagine being six weeks from graduation and commissioning, and have it being ripped away over trumped up charges.

23 posted on 04/08/2014 8:48:53 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Women got cut no slack there. Which surprised the heck out of me considering it is SF.”

Being SF. . .how can you tell the men from the women, and besides, because it is SF, the girly-men are less masculine than the women. . .right?

Just kidding. . . .(no slam against your daughter)


24 posted on 04/08/2014 8:49:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
To save their pensions they caved to the Clown threats.

Nailed it.

25 posted on 04/08/2014 8:52:13 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

“To save their pensions they caved to the Clown threats.”

No different than your average Republican Congressman and Senator.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 8:57:50 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: don-o

“And, Amos said, he offered Santangelo a chance to go to Afghanistan while she awaits an opening in flight training.”

To do what, Commandant? Lead an infantry platoon? After she failed to complete the Officer’s Infantry Course?


27 posted on 04/08/2014 9:26:38 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Resolute Conservative
Geez this PC crap will get us all killed.

You obviously didn't read what the woman had to say. Her piece represents the finest example I have seen of what equal opportunity should be. She is an honor to the Marine Corp, its high standards and traditions.

Next time take the time to get yourself informed.

28 posted on 04/08/2014 9:31:41 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Jack Hammer
Yet another pentagon politician eyeing that pension and perhaps thinking of a post-USMC fling at public office.

Yet another idiot shooting his mouth from the hip without being informed. Read what the woman wrote and argue against it. She 100% supported the high standards of the Marine Corp and never said a single word about lowering them. She simply wants to meet those high standards and have the same opportunity to do so that men have.

The General at least took the time to become informed before acting.

29 posted on 04/08/2014 9:35:28 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Pietro
"...and if those standards are necessary" The money line.

Read first before firing your mouth. The woman said not one word about lowering standards, only about having equal opportunity to meet them.

Read what she wrote and then try to argue against it.

30 posted on 04/08/2014 9:37:33 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: dfwgator
I weep for the future.

You have a point if idiots like you are any example. It is obvious you didn't read a word of what the woman had to say. She represented well the fine honor and history of the Marine Corp and our future would look a lot brighter if there were more of her type and less of yours.

31 posted on 04/08/2014 9:40:19 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

If she has her way, more WM will fail in the OCS training leading to fewer female officers across the board.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 9:41:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: dfwgator
Meaning. . .standards WILL BE LOWERED to allow females in the MOS. And allow fags.

Read what the woman had to say and then tell me who represents the higher standards, a highly motivated achiever like her or an uninformed idiot like you?

33 posted on 04/08/2014 9:42:14 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51
I did. That line is from the Gen. and is what it is.

Are the standards necessary??

What do you think?

Should our combat Marines be required to meet standards?

Or is that too 20th century for you?

You realize obama purged all of the officers that were against his radical transformation of the military, right?

34 posted on 04/08/2014 9:45:13 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Whiner. About years ago, my daughter was offered a commission in the Marines. She worked with the recruiter (a great guy, BTW) as to the physical requirements she would have to meet. She trained *on her own* and periodically with the recruiter. She was able to meet the standard required for a basic male recruit. My point? If this woman was a self starter like my kid she’d have trained on her own to prepare, not whined that the USMC didn’t make her train hard enough. Always someone else’s fault. My daughter ended up turning down the commission for several personal reasons. She did later go through SFPD academy (8 months!) which was brutal. Women got cut no slack there. Which surprised the heck out of me considering it is SF.

The woman wasn't a whiner, she equalled or exceeded what your daughter achieved. At the time she wrote the piece she undoubtedly could exceed what your daughter could. She stated a simple fact that given the same opportunity as her male counterparts she believes she can meet the same standard as her male counterparts. What's wrong with that? Isn't that what equal opportunity should be about?

35 posted on 04/08/2014 9:46:47 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: DesertRhino
If flight school doesn’t work out, she get to be an astronaut? And who in hell thinks its a fine idea that a platoon of USMC infantry be commanded by a female? Amos needs to resign.

Ahhh...she's guilty of being a woman so it doesn't matter what her skills and capabilities are.

36 posted on 04/08/2014 9:48:46 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

Thank you for the politely modulated tone of your post.

I, personally, don’t believe women belong in the services.

Have a nice day.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 9:55:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: don-o
Women always have,and always will,play a vital role in our Armed Forces.But the only women who should be actually deployed in dangerous areas are physicians and nurses.We don't need Army or Marine infantry officers...or enlisted for that matter.
38 posted on 04/08/2014 10:17:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Jack Hammer
Yet another pentagon politician eyeing that pension and perhaps thinking of a post-USMC fling at public office.

She's not asking for an easing in the requirements. She's asking why she can't take a second shot at it when her male counterparts who failed can. What's wrong with that?

39 posted on 04/08/2014 10:24:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Gay State Conservative
Women always have,and always will,play a vital role in our Armed Forces.But the only women who should be actually deployed in dangerous areas are physicians and nurses.We don't need Army or Marine infantry officers...or enlisted for that matter.

So take out serving in the Army and Marines and what "vital role in our Armed Forces" is left? Only Navy and Air Force?

40 posted on 04/08/2014 10:25:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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