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Rand Paul blames America- Partly To Blame For Pearl Harbor, World War II
The Right Scoop ^ | 2012 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 03/31/2014 11:04:32 AM PDT by gwgn02

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To: McGruff

I didn’t have to wait as long as you to know I would not endorse Rand Paul. Once he endorsed McConnell, it was over for me.

CRUZ in 2016!


41 posted on 03/31/2014 11:35:55 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Sherman Logan
(1) Japan did not have to attack anyone. They made a conscious decision to steal from other countries rather than build their own wealth.

(2) Japan had adequate land to feed its population, which grew about 15% from 1920 to 1940.

(3) The US government and population were well aware that Japan would likely attack the US. They did not anticipate that Japan would try as unorthodox a move as to strike first at Pearl Harbor: most observers assumed that the Philippines would have been the rational choice.

42 posted on 03/31/2014 11:36:25 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: gwgn02

If was to comment might be giving a senator information and the senator am speaking of needs defeating and should be handily defeated according to the polling taking place. Rand is intelligent (imho). Am looking at his endorsement in my state and I totally agree with him and will vote, in the primary, for Rand’s endorsement.


43 posted on 03/31/2014 11:36:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Din Maker

but I do not agree with Rand on his endorsement of mcconnell but this might be to stay out of trouble. May mcconnell be defeated.


44 posted on 03/31/2014 11:38:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: PapaNew
RE :”Here we go again. The Left basically lies while the video shows his point is unintended consequences, not “blaming the U.S. for WWII”

If you watch the vid he explains why he supports sanctions against Iran that he voted for but is opposed to invasion.

The title was fictioned to convince readers of the opposite.

The WWII theme nonsense is about nothing.

The long knives are out for the libertarian kid, his poll ##s are scaring some.

45 posted on 03/31/2014 11:38:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: wideawake

Yes, it is. I often think the same thing. It’s as if they’ve given up hope on America and concluded they must accept the downfall of the USA. I believe they’d be better off to realize that Obama’s overreach will setback Liberalism for along time. But if the conservatives end up acting and thinking like cranks out of alienation and anger, then the American people will not see them as a viable alternative.


46 posted on 03/31/2014 11:38:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: wideawake
They attacked because they saw the chance to seize land and assets...

Yes. Paul is a bit confused. The oil embargo did not cause the Japanese to attack America. The embargo just moved the timetable up a bit.

Embargo or not, the Japanese wanted the US out of the Philippines and the British out of Singapore.

47 posted on 03/31/2014 11:39:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Jim Robinson; gwgn02

What a shock!

48 posted on 03/31/2014 11:41:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: PapaNew

Quote: “Well, here we go again. The Left basically lies while the video shows his point is unintended consequences, not “blaming the U.S. for WWII”. Unfortunately, many on the Right will take the Leftist bate. Yes, I think Rand’s worst feature is his foreign policy, but the Left hates him and the Right taking on their lies doesn’t help.”

The LEFT!?!? No way, this sounds more like a GOP-e smear that is being brought to you by the “Jeb Bush, the only “electable” candidate for President in 2016” machine.

What I find hysterical is how many on this forum fall for this time and time again and end up eating our own. A headline that completely either mischaracterizes what was said or takes it out of context. The next thing you know you get the “Rand Paul is a fool” or “I no longer support this ignorant traitor” crap. Some of it, probably, posted by Karl Rove whiteboard fans planted on FR.

I for one take anything said about a conservative leaning candidate with a degree of skepticism.


49 posted on 03/31/2014 11:42:49 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: wideawake
Well, was it the Axis powers or FDR that did more damage to the American Republic?

I don't get the love fest for Putin and Assad, though. I wouldn't exactly say they're on the Washington, Jefferson, or Adams scale.
50 posted on 03/31/2014 11:43:54 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Dick Bachert
the need to PROVOKE the largely isolationist American people to get into the war against the Axis powers to save the Brits

(1) The American people saw the situation in Asia differently from the situation in Europe.

(2) Most Americans assumed, given Japan's behavior, that they would eventually commit an act of war against the US by attacking our overseas possessions.

(3) Americans were not enthusiastic about war in Europe, but they were not about to take aggression from Japan lying down.

(5) You wander far off into conspiracy fantasism with your comments about "German based facilities" of US companies.

There was no such thing as precision nighttime bombing - it was simply an impossibility to select specific buildings for destruction or preservation. The very suggestion is absurd.

As is the assumption that such facilities would not have been nationalized by Germany, as is the assumption that the facilities weren't insured.

51 posted on 03/31/2014 11:44:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uhh, wait, that lady is holding up a R. . O. . N Paul sign not a R. . A. . N. . D Paul sign. I realize they share the same last name but am pretty sure that doesn’t mean they are the same person.


52 posted on 03/31/2014 11:45:05 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: gwgn02

The lefties love Rand Paul as a stalking horse to help split the conservative vote. They know they can take him out anytime they want to. Same reason they love Huckleberry.


53 posted on 03/31/2014 11:45:26 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: randomhero97
Well, was it the Axis powers or FDR that did more damage to the American Republic?

If the Axis Powers had triumphed, it certainly would have been the Axis Powers.

I don't get the love fest for Putin and Assad, though. I wouldn't exactly say they're on the Washington, Jefferson, or Adams scale.

No, they are on the Dahmer, Gacy, or Bundy scale.

54 posted on 03/31/2014 11:45:54 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Both Germany and Japan were busy attacking and killing others during the time so it is not like they did nothing as we put on sanctions.

In reality, Japan was killing folks in the Philippines and in China and the Germany killing those in Europe long before we got involved.


55 posted on 03/31/2014 11:46:06 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: gwgn02

That the Japanese attack on Pearl was a response to our economic embargo on oil shipments is hardly controversial.


56 posted on 03/31/2014 11:46:40 AM PDT by jdege
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To: Mears

He is ambitious, raw, uncontrolled ambition.

One of the biggest challenges to Rand Paul is going to be, to keep the massiveness of his ego, hidden from the public.


57 posted on 03/31/2014 11:48:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: edcoil
Correct. Sanctions were a reaction to existing policies of brutality, not some kind of unheralded provocation.
58 posted on 03/31/2014 11:48:19 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: FlipWilson

They keep saying the same things.


59 posted on 03/31/2014 11:49:00 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: FlipWilson

Yeah, ‘cause all of Ron Paul’s supporters went home the day he retired and NOT ONE of them attached themselves to his son. And if Michelle Obama runs, she’ll have to find her own followers, same as Hillary Clinton, Dubya and Jeb.


60 posted on 03/31/2014 11:50:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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