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SpaceX Set to Launch the World’s First Reusable Booster
Technology Review ^ | March 13, 2014 | By Michael Belfiore

Posted on 03/13/2014 11:34:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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SpaceX Reusable Launch System
1 posted on 03/13/2014 11:34:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
That is an important development if it works.

Especially if they can scale up to heavy lift.

2 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The launch has been delayed until the end of March.


3 posted on 03/13/2014 11:44:22 PM PDT by cabojoe
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Grasshopper divert
4 posted on 03/13/2014 11:46:53 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: cabojoe
Werner von Braun invented the technology that's still in use by ULA.

That's amazing all by itself.

But, eventually something else HAD to come along. I'd sure like to know how much this technology differs from what's in dominant use today in US and Russia.

And let's hope the Norks or Iranians don't get their hands on it.

5 posted on 03/13/2014 11:48:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vince Ferrer
many current customers of launch services, including operators of commercial satellites, aren’t particularly price sensitive

I would assume that includes mostly government rather than commercial enterprises. What competitive company is not interested in the bottom line? Government is probably where private space companies get most of their funding, however.
6 posted on 03/13/2014 11:52:15 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The Space Shuttle was a reusable booster.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 11:53:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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I would assume that includes mostly government rather than commercial enterprises. What competitive company is not interested in the bottom line? Government is probably where private space companies get most of their funding, however.

Government has been almost the exclusive customer, along with communications companies, because they are the ones who can afford it. Bring down the price, and new applications will open up. There are also efforts to radically bring down the price of satellites. For instance, there is an effort to bring global wifi access through a satellite constellation. Think of what that could do for robotics, and freedom of speech. I would like global Wifi for journalism that can't be censored. Asteroid mining would become practical. There are a world of applications that would open up.

8 posted on 03/14/2014 12:01:58 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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yup, imagine a refurbishable Saturn V.

I will be glad when we can rely on SpaceX instead of the Russians to get people to the ISS.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 12:02:53 AM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Cincinatus

Touché. Except for the external fuel tank the whole thing was reusable. The only problem is that it costed almost half a $billion to refurbish after each launch. Almost as much as it would cost to build another one.


10 posted on 03/14/2014 12:05:39 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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I think that reflects commercial enterprises as well, at least to some extent.

If you’re going to pay millions to launch a satellite into orbit, it’s probably more important to have a successful launch than it is to scrimp on a few bucks.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 12:09:02 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Cincinatus
The Space Shuttle was a reusable booster.

The shuttle was a nice try at reusability, but in practice fell far short. The main fuel tank (orange) was completely expendable. The solid rocket motors (white) were recovered, but the amount of repair work needed to use them again put the price of reuse to be not much less than building new ones. The orbiter was the reusable part, but even it had to go through very expensive repairs and checks between flights.

The goal of the Spacex reusable rockets, is to have minimal repairs between flights, ideally just to refuel it.

12 posted on 03/14/2014 12:11:20 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Hah, government in fact. I particular liked this oxymoronic statement:

Arianespace has indicated that it may ask for an increase in government subsidies to remain competitive with SpaceX
13 posted on 03/14/2014 12:12:54 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I know what their goal is. I also know that reusability has been a goal of spaceflight since it began and every attempt to achieve it has fallen short for one reason or another.

Reusable is one thing; cheap access to space is something else. SpaceX is about to learn that lesson.

14 posted on 03/14/2014 12:14:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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Arianespace has indicated that it may ask for an increase in government subsidies to remain competitive with SpaceX

Europe is broke. Good luck with that.

15 posted on 03/14/2014 12:22:37 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Cincinatus
Reusable is one thing; cheap access to space is something else. SpaceX is about to learn that lesson.

At least they are trying. In fact, there are a lot of innovative groups out there, Spacex is just one. One of them can probably be successful.

STS-129 Ascent Highlights

16 posted on 03/14/2014 12:28:14 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Jonty30

That’s a point I’ve heard before. Which is why things like simple washers and rivets are made from gold or titanium. Better to have them last a while than replace them too shortly.


17 posted on 03/14/2014 12:28:39 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Cincinatus

SpaceX is teaching lessons.

They are cutting cost to access space by about 3/4.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 12:29:29 AM PDT by Reaganez
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spacex shows us that $20 billion/year nasa funding is a waste of money. Spacex isn’t even operating with $20billion/year and yet could achieve more than nasa


19 posted on 03/14/2014 12:44:15 AM PDT by 4rcane
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The SRB on the shuttle was supposed to be reusable too


20 posted on 03/14/2014 12:59:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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