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The Insiders: For Democrats, dark days ahead
The Washington Post ^ | November16,2013 | ED ROGERS

Posted on 11/16/2013 8:57:16 AM PST by Hojczyk

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To: wmfights
-- The GOPe does not want to kill obamacare. They just want to be exempted and in charge. --

I am not so sure the GOPe is all that invested or excited about being in charge. Being the party out of power allows them to more easily escape accountability, and to snipe at the majority/controlling party.

And they are still members of the cool kids club.

21 posted on 11/16/2013 9:39:07 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hojczyk

“So we can rule out delusion”

No, you can’t!


22 posted on 11/16/2013 9:41:50 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cboldt

No one wants to be in charge of this…the insurers should have said no…we have a contract…I think they will go for single payer in about a month…and blame it all on the RINOS..


23 posted on 11/16/2013 9:43:52 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Ed Rogers
PostPartisan Contributor

Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991. Rogers has been involved with numerous Republican political campaigns, including the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. In the first Bush White House, he reported to chief of staff John Sununu. In the Reagan White House, he worked in the office of political affairs.


24 posted on 11/16/2013 9:45:49 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Hojczyk

When you lose Walter Cronkite, strike that - When you lose the Washington Post ...


25 posted on 11/16/2013 9:46:19 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Hojczyk
>> Well, if Team Obama is so certain they aren’t stupid, maybe they think we are all the stupid one <<

They don't think we're stupid. They think we are wimps. At worst ObamaCare was still a victory for the left because they got to launder billions of dollars to cronies. At best ObamaCare will grow into the huge federal bureaucracy that the left has always dreamed about.
26 posted on 11/16/2013 9:47:02 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: rbg81

Well put.
No “free stuff” from the government is ever recinded by voters. They always demand more funding for it.

The 2014 election mantra will be: “The Republicans want to cut your healthcare!”


27 posted on 11/16/2013 9:49:52 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: txhurl
There are lots of people for whom politics is just noise..."they are all the same", etc.

But now, one party has played with their lives and livelihoods, and if those people are made aware of it, I hope that many will be propelled out of their apolitical slumber.

In the same way, we will have to convince many people who live their lives conservatively but have always voted Dem out of habit or loyalty that it is time to "hold their nose" and do the right thing for themselves and the country.

28 posted on 11/16/2013 9:50:32 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (You know something's really wrong when the salesman keeps selling long after the close.)
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To: rbg81
Also, it is plausible that the horrors of Obamacare will be exhausted in time to blunt some of the blow Democrats would be dealt if the midterm elections were held today.

I disagree with you and the author. This is why.

Fed Register/Vol. 75, No. 116/Thu, June 17, 2010/ 34553 (10s of millions will lose empl insurance)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088618/posts

Top of Page 34,553

TABLE 3—ESTIMATES OF THE CUMULATIVE PERCENTAGE OF EMPLOYER PLANS RELINQUISHING THEIR GRANDFATHERED STATUS, 2011–2013

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“Under this assumption, the Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013. The low-end estimates are for 49 percent and 34 percent of small and large employer plans, respectively, to have relinquished grandfather status, and the high-end estimates are 80 percent and 64 percent, respectively.”

If nothing changes, next year at this time 10’s of millions will have lost their insurance. This was known since June, 2010. These estimates are from the Treasury. People are going to be pissed. Pissed like you have never seen before. I'm one of those people. I have great insurance and I may lose it.

29 posted on 11/16/2013 10:00:54 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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Twelve months is a long time, and I fear the Democrats may be in too much trouble too early.

Every republican running in 2014 needs to emphasize that Obamacare has just begun. The employer mandate was delayed until after the election, and will cancel far more policies than have already been cancelled.

30 posted on 11/16/2013 10:12:49 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Hojczyk
Surely this was an informed decision … right?

Nope. Just something that popped into the lizard Queen's head.

31 posted on 11/16/2013 10:16:13 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Chgogal

I have great insurance - Cigna - and am losing it to Anthem BC, which from all accounts I’ve heard is awful.


32 posted on 11/16/2013 10:26:16 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Hojczyk

President Obama announced his plan.
The cartoon channel must have added a new line up.


33 posted on 11/16/2013 10:42:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: rbg81

And all of these people will be good Democratic voters for the rest of their lives.

You might be right but there is also a chance that finding a doctor who will see you or see you 12 months from now will be an issue. Emergency rooms might still be full of those who can’t find a doctor who will take them. I don’t see a mass of people moving from emergency rooms to doctors they can’t see. It’ll remain to be an issue as thousands complain that they can’t get medical care. This isn’t likely to benefit the progressives.


34 posted on 11/16/2013 10:45:50 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (The larger the government, the smaller the people)
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To: Joan Kerrey

It was fixed as far as PELOSI and the PHONE RECIPIENT CROWD are concerned. Come on man.


35 posted on 11/16/2013 10:59:02 AM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Hojczyk

Dark “days”? Let’s make it “decades”, instead, okay?


36 posted on 11/16/2013 11:03:45 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: what's up

It’s simple: I said “Silly GOP” because they are focusing on EVERYTHING (website, cancellations) but the Medicaid angle. And that is the part of Obamacare that is DESIGNED to drive them into extinction.

M’Okay?


37 posted on 11/16/2013 11:07:26 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Hojczyk

Dead? No. Democrats are coyotes, fire ants, roaches, rats, microbes. Adapt, survive, reproduce, infect.


38 posted on 11/16/2013 11:07:34 AM PST by lurk
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To: Hojczyk
In the end, the plan is Medicaid for everybody.

The Winners Of Life's Lottery will have to cough up high premiums collected by the IRS and based on a sliding scale dependent on their "wealth".

Naturally, the "Poor" will get it for nothing. All they need do is continue to pay for it with their votes.

39 posted on 11/16/2013 11:11:37 AM PST by Gritty (You can't fix crazy any more than you can fix stupid. Obamacare was never going to work.-Steve Deace)
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The Democrats have nothing to fear. With rampant voter fraud, millions of low-information voters and the support of a slavish media, the Democrats will keep the Senate next year and could very well take the House.


40 posted on 11/16/2013 11:25:32 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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