Posted on 11/11/2013 10:35:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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Ansel, Ansel, Ansel.
True libertarians got infiltrated by rabid liberals. What we see calling itself a Libertarian party is a very compromised organ. Actual root Libertarianism can be very copacetic with the bible, with an "our only king is Jesus" tenet.
I was speaking of the libertarians on this thread, and at FR.
Libertarianism is the politics of Sodom and Gomorrah, a place full of liberals and libertarians, and very short on social conservatives.
Well if you want statist social conservatives you will find none in the libertarians.
If you want BIBLE faithful people, you’ll find a LOT and you will also find they do not appreciate the blasphemy from you.
LOL, the libertarians are not famous for being bible believing, social conservative, Christians.
Believe me, that is not what they are known for.
You really do need to talk with your doctor. Your meds simply do not work.
I am NOT talking about passing more laws; that’s YOUR solution to each and every “problem,” not mine. I am talking about simply repealing laws that have no legitimate place in a free society.
A religious sacrament of Holy Matrimony plus a civil contract would fit most anyone’s needs. Churches in general would set the definition and standards couples must meet and agree to live by to be married. Someone not desiring that could get a civil union contract or just live together. SOCIETY (not government) would wind up being the proper enforcement mechanism for marriage. And that is as it SHOULD be!!!
You have begged the question because “social conservative” in your eyes means lobbying for sterner and sterner STATE laws no matter how spectacular the fail (as in the “drug war.”) Christian Libertarians say wait, let’s call on the gospel to get people to control themselves!
You are a broken record... remember that old vinyl and diamond technology?
This group of Sarvis voters is more like the John Anderson or Lowell Weicker or Lincoln Chafee voter than the standard issue small government (or no government?) libertarian.
Liberal Republicans (or the kind of people who used to be liberal Republicans), maybe with a dash of the Jerry Brown Dennis Kucinich anti-establishment voter among the young.
As a Bible-believing, born-again, servant of the One True Living God, I am highly offended at your vile and totally false characterization of me and of MANY LIKE ME!
Perhaps the mods could have a chat with you before you REALLY cross the line.
So you want to first repeal all marriage/divorce/custody laws in America, creating a situation unknown in American history, and impossible for government to function in, since they have to haves rules and laws determining their actions in many cases involving relationships, as in the military and immigration, etc.
So that is just childish nonsense.
Second you want to make any and all religions in charge of marriage and divorce for their members, and presumably, ex-members.
Which instantly creates polygamy and gay marriage, and whatever all the kooky religions can come up with.
Why are you obsessed with something that can’t be done, will never be done, and shouldn’t be done anyway?
Why is this immature playing around, more important than fighting the left’s and the libertarian’s gay agenda through actual politics, which is what this conservative site is about?
Are you guys thinking that America is going to become a Catholic theocracy or something?
I remember voting for John Anderson in the 1980 primary election. I voted for Ronald Reagan in the general election and naturally in the 1984 primary and general election
LOL, the libertarians are not famous for being bible believing, social conservative, Christians.
Perhaps you should reexamine your social politics and look into just what libertarians are rightfully known for, they are not known for being religious, in fact just the opposite.
“”Americans who identify with the Tea Party are more likely to identify with the Christian Right than to hold views consistent with a libertarian philosophy, according to a new report by the Public Religion Research Institute.””
“”Libertarians are composed of a disproportionately high number of white mainline Protestants (27%) and religiously unaffiliated Americans (27%). Only about 1-in-10 (11%) libertarians identify as Catholic””
Demographics do not define biblical faithfulness. As Jesus himself said, when He returns will He find faith on the earth? I think He’s going to have to look real hard to find any in you. He’ll say your idol was the state.
And as for this endless LOLling of yours, lay off that laughing gas. It can give you cancer of the conscience.
Only you could promote the libertarians and their anti-God agenda, in the name of Jesus and “biblical faithfulness”.
If you cherish a baby who is sick, does that mean you are cherishing the germs with which it is sick?
And anyhow, lay off those ad-hominems. This is getting way beyond “a few bruises between freepers.” Were I a moderator I would give you a stern warning about that right now.
I was dead serious in that description of your posting, it is religious ravings trying to sell an anti-God political movement, as the pro-God political movement.
Sodom and Gomorrah already had all the libertarians and liberals it could use, what it needed, was some social conservatives, the kind you mock.
>> Marriage is a sacrament of the CHURCH.
Agreed. The govt doesn’t belong in the affairs of marriage.
While I prefer the intended outcome of DOMA, it’s obvious that the level of law DOMA represents is extremely dangerous (in the wrong hands.)
The govt is too damn large and overbearing. It’s so damn large that even the concept of small libertarianism is far from what it was years ago.
Then you are calling for something different from what ever existed in the United States of America, and you better be including Mosques, and all religions and cults in your description, as silly as it is to waste time on this bizarre fantasy, that seems to leave out the non-religious, and doesn't account for divorce, and leaving a religion.
The foggy feelgood philosophy is no doubt a factor for what some aptly describe as Liberal-tarians. And yes, some humility would serve them well.
My focus concerns small libertarianism which is in contrast to statism — degrees of enforcement.
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