Posted on 11/11/2013 10:35:15 AM PST by Kaslin
LOL, you are the one fighting for the right for everyone to define marriage on their own, in any way that they want.
No one is forcing your religion to perform gay marriage or polygamous marriage, if they believe in that, then according you you fine, if they don’t, then they don’t.
You can already define marriage for yourself, as you choose, so what is your complaint?
Yeah? And how do you determine that? Will you sit him down now with a baseball bat?
The basic question, raised a dozen years ago by a better conservative than I, is, "Who do you have to be, to say 'should'?"
Social conservatives are "for" conserving the social mores that got us where we are today, viz., Judaeo-Christian mores. Don't believe me? Well, just look around -- where is Babylon today? Where is Nineveh?
Come Nineveh, come Tyre, the Jewish model has withstood the test of 36 centuries, and their former enslavers are all dust.
don’t you understand that using the state to destroy civil marriage is somehow leaving you alone?
lol
I don’t care if libertarians “marry” without a government paper, but why do they seek to deny others that?
Religions already can and do perform marriages for their members and practitioners.
What are you guys talking about?
That's just it... You can't any more. Because of your laws, the Gays are now getting to over-write what should be Religious in nature.
And that's your fault.
Yes. You. Personally. I'm blaming you.
Bump
Gay Democrats on the other hand... Would. And are.
That was going to happen anyway -- the people doing that are animals anyhow. They are scientific materialists by choice, because they want to live by pogrom and genocide, to remove all the social irritants in their environment, especially moral nags telling them "you shouldn't sexualize children" and "sodomy is an abomination".
They're coming for you no matter what the Religious Right does. Quit worrying about the Right.
Libertarians supporting gay marriage is ansel’s fault? okay.
:p
Social liberals should be more appalled by libertarians than social conservatives. Libertarians, on principal, oppose ALL welfare. Libertarians oppose Medicare and Social Security. A true libertarian even opposes zoning laws—want to smelt iron in you backyard? Have at it, but if you burn down my house in the process, you pay. A libertarian is more accurately described as an individualist—they are the polar opposite of not just collectivists but anyone who promotes a social contract.
Exactly.
I believe that dead corpse wants his church to run marriage in America and wants to impose his church law on us all.
>> [because of law], the Gays are now getting to over-write what should be Religious in nature.
Indeed!
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Don’t be a statist!!!
No, NOT because of "his" laws -- which, I remind you, are the status quo since the Founding.
Because of amoral, genocidal Leftist maniacs and mouth-breathers blasting vast tranches of political sewer-money into politics the the multiple firehoses of PACs and bundlers, driving political whoredogs like Karl Rove nuts with avarice and the constant tickle of lush, long, green, fungible political money.
One of the cultish traits of libertarians, is their disconnect from reality.
Libertarianism of social liberalism and open borders, makes small government and ending welfare and social programs, impossible.
Social liberalism breeds, creates, and even imports, liberal, big government voters and democrats.
Libertarians believing liberals on the subject of homosexual "marriage" is the fault of TV news and the failure of American education to give kids the Kremlinological tools they'll need to interpret the newspapers of today and tomorrow.
Read between the lines, kids ..... the homosexuals in major Media are lying to you relentlessly.
>> Quit worrying about the Right.
The issue concerns the overbearing control of govt. The bureaucratic machine is large and dangerous regardless of who’s driving it.
A small, conservative government is what we want.
Ok... I don’t actually disagree with any of what you wrote in that post.
But I’m still blaming ansel because he’s kind of a troll and I don’t like him very much.
Believe in the Four Freedoms and the Constitution? Off to the death camps with you!
They don't believe liberals on the subject, they believe conservative arguments that it will destroy the institution of marriage, and this is why they support it.
You are mighty trusting of the Gaystapo and their pals in government. You think they'll be content with having their "marriages" performed by their own pastors? No way. They'll demand that the marriages be performed by your church, my church or any church they so desire (they already are doing this).
This is a fatal flaw in libertarianism. Similar to their isolationist foreign policy. If we don't 'bother them', they won't bother us. Unbelievably naive. And the consequences are severe. Permitting gay marriage would lead to the social equivalent of 9/11.
Therefore, conservatism must proactively oppose these forces.
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