13 people, including 3-year-old boy, shot at South Side park

Nothing about stabbings etc. The guns get the attention.

Was this a “sons of Obama” BBQ that went bad?

Or just another night in the Obama/Emanuel/Jackson/Davis/Axelrod “Hood”?

Protip: If you’re gonna bust a cap, please don’t hold your weapon sideways. Just sayin’

Holding a Mosin Nagant gangsta' style and bustin' a cap sounds painful. I don't think I'll try it.

That’s a different world than today. I agree we do tend to infatilize kids. You could take the North Avenue bus in Chicago to the end of the line as a 14 year old boy carrying a 12 gauge, hunt in the fields there and not a person would say a word.

You fix that by ending government’s role in education and child labor. We’re in agreement otherwise.

Agree completely. Lower standards just leads to lower standards.

It’s always and everywhere a culture problem.

Why is it that when there is a mass shooting with white people, it’s a false flag operation, and when it involves black people, it’s because they “Amish”?

“By what crazy calculus would anyone think a teen girl would make a good mom?”
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Maybe you could have worded that a little differently. There was a time when any young woman who was not MARRIED AND A MOTHER while still in her teens was considered an old maid. I was born during WWII and it was quite common for girls as young as ten or even younger to be expected to care for their younger siblings and they did a fine job of it, even being left alone with them. The problem is not that a teen age girl is too young it is that unmarried, uneducated, ignorant, drug using, undisciplined girls cannot be trusted even with a puppy, let alone a child and that is true even if the girl in question is 35.

I would venture that the average twelve year old girl I knew in my youth was far more mature in terms of accepting and handling responsibility than the average twenty year old is today, possibly even more than the average thirty year old today. That could be the situation again some day but if so it will come about out of dire necessity because there are far too few responsible adults available to teach that kind of responsibility to young people now. I rode to school on buses driven by sixteen and seventeen year old students and they did a fine job, I don’t recall a single serious accident, in fact the only accident of any kind I recall involving a bus driven by a teenager was the result of the buses sliding off the road on slick red clay mud, something that even the most skillful drivers could not prevent sometimes, those teenagers drove school buses on roads that a lot of people now couldn’t navigate with a four wheel drive pickup truck.

“Oddly, I am starting to believe teen girls/boys back then were far more mature than what we have today.”
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Oddly? Oddly? What on Earth is odd? I think it is as obvious as the sunrise that people of any age back then were far more mature than those of the same age today, especially the very young. We consider people children at an age when they used to be expected to act like adults. One of the strangest things I have heard recently was a woman expressing to my wife that she thinks young children are more mature now than in the past. I asked my wife later and she said she considered that view to be as strange as I thought it was.

I have commented many times online about how I went straight from high school to Navy boot camp, went to Navy electronics school, got my honorable discharge just before my twenty first birthday and went to work. At twenty three I was an honorably discharged vet with a job that paid the equivalent of more than sixty thousand a year in today’s dollars and I was driving a new Mustang I bought for myself. Was I considered a success? No, I was considered a hopeless failure because I was still single! That is how much things have changed. Now people keep their “children” on their insurance until the age of twenty six. Good grief, twenty six used to be middle age. There used to be plenty of grandmothers who were not yet thirty. There are plenty of thirty five and forty year old children running around now who show no signs of any desire to ever grow up.

It is true that a lot of people used to follow the tradition of the “three generation house” that is common to the Amish now. The three generation house is coming back but in the old days the children and grandchildren took care of the grandparents in their old age. Now the children and grandchildren are being supported by the grandparents all too often. With all the talk about unemployment an often unreported story is the great number of people carrying medicare cards to their job now. There are some businesses in my area that are beginning to look like homes for the aged. I could find a job now almost as quickly as I could when I was in my twenties, the difference is it pays about a third as much in real terms as what I could get then. My wife’s high school classmate runs a temporary agency, she says more and more businesses are looking for older workers because the young people will call up and say things like, “My cat is sick so I can’t come to work today.” Apparently the young want a paycheck but they don’t want any work to go with it.

For certain, the goal of every government program is dependency. It’s the reason behind the sexualization of children. No one matures beyond their basest passions.