Posted on 09/20/2013 4:29:03 AM PDT by spirited irish
Surely those same words would describe your post here?
***No. It’s in the record.
Matt 27
17 So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?” 18 For he knew it was out of self-interest that they had handed Jesus over to him.
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“The New Testament Documents - Are They Reliable?” by FF Bruce.
The ENTIRE book is transcribed here on FR. So it’s free and as accessible as reading our posts.
The New Testament Documents - Are They Reliable?
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Kevmo made the statement. Is there some reason he can't provide context?
“Once the mistake was corrected, he didn’t answer the questin, did he?”
Post 1,718.
Of course you would be against such a thing, because you are a troll.
Is that your ‘troll test”?
I figured out several years ago that you’re a troll.
Thanks for answering. I did not catch that.
I withdraw my comment on #1760 and humbly ask your forgiveness. I apologize.
Do you accept the historical fact that Jesus was condemned by the sanhedrin due to claiming equality with God? Even His enemies acknowledge the claim.
I’ll be sure to give that all the consideration it’s due.
Of course you will. T4BTT
I have no basis to judge the accuracy of that statement, nor do I have any interest in validating the claim, to be honest.
I have no basis to judge the accuracy of that statement,
***There is plenty of basis, starting from common sense (when 2 opposing sides agree on a fact, it is reliable) to looking at the science behind historicity of events. Denying the historicity of this event is a show of disrespect for the science behind the claim.
nor do I have any interest in validating the claim, to be honest.
***Then what exactly is your purpose in coming onto a thread like this? This is a strange attitude to exhibit, ducking one’s head in the sand.
“There is plenty of basis, starting from common sense”
Common sense is not a basis to judge the truth of a 2,000 year old claim.
“(when 2 opposing sides agree on a fact, it is reliable) to looking at the science behind historicity of events.”
Again, history is not science. People agreeing is also not scientific. And what are the sides you are dividing everyone into?
“Denying the historicity of this event is a show of disrespect for the science behind the claim.”
No, it shows that I have no basis to judge the accuracy of that statement, nor do I have any interest in validating the claim.
to see exactly where historians draw the line between what qualifies as “history” and what goes beyond that into religious faith. This is a major issue with Kevmo, who seems pretty confused on the subject.
***Feel free to point out where I am supposedly confused on the subject. BTW, The Jesus Seminar stuff is complete hogwash.
“Then what exactly is your purpose in coming onto a thread like this? This is a strange attitude to exhibit, ducking one’s head in the sand.”
Missed that on the first reply. My purpose was to join in. How that translates to having to answer every silly question thrown my way eludes me.
Common sense is not a basis to judge the truth of a 2,000 year old claim.
***Sure it is. Use some common sense: was Julius Caesar a roman general, or not? It’s a simple fact of history. To deny it is to show a measure of irrationality that goes beyond the pale.
Kevmo: “(when 2 opposing sides agree on a fact, it is reliable) to looking at the science behind historicity of events.”
Fuzz: Again, history is not science.
***How many times do the folks on this thread need to say this ridiculous statement? Going back to such a dog-vomit trite observation shows that you’re stuck intellectually. Over and over again, it’s really stupid to use it like that. Address the issue: the science BEHIND the historicity. Stop dancing.
People agreeing is also not scientific.
***You don’t make any sense here. Perhaps you have no background into looking into historicity, and you’re just spouting off uninformed opinions.
And what are the sides you are dividing everyone into?
***Studied incomprehension. When 3rd graders can understand something, and we see comments such as this one, it begs the question of why you have such a studied incomprehension.
Kevmo:
“Denying the historicity of this event is a show of disrespect for the science behind the claim.”
Fuzz: No, it shows that I have no basis to judge the accuracy of that statement,
***You’re just repeating yourself. Again,more studied incomprehension.
nor do I have any interest in validating the claim.
***Again, just repeating yourself. What’s your purpose for logging onto this thread? Once one examines the historicity of the claims of Christ, one can no longer say that christians are irrational when they honestly believe the claims. By saying you don’t even want to look at the claim, you’re basically acting like someone with an idealogical agenda on a thread like this. When one observes a bird that looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, and is verified not to be a goose, it’s probably a duck. Insert the word ‘idealogue’ for ‘duck’. You’re acting like an average idealogue..
How that translates to having to answer every silly question thrown my way eludes me.
***The identity of Christ is the most important issue you will ever be confronted with, ever. Period. In your entire life. It is not among “ answer every silly question thrown your way”.
Kevmo made the statement. Is there some reason he can’t provide context?
***Sure, I’ll provide context. Tacticalogic is a troll. He knows how to provoke. That was his aim when he posted the noob thing. The only mystery here is why the mods allow such overt trolls to operate on FR.
There’s your “context”, according to Kevmo. Do you still want to get Jim Robinson involved to ask him for his version of the “context” for comparison? That might be fun.
It’s always fun for the troll. Entertainment trolls.
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