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Former Hostess Employees Bitter About Wage Cuts [I'm no liberal, but I agree with them]
Wall St. Journal ^ | July 8, 2013 | JULIE JARGON

Posted on 07/09/2013 3:34:11 AM PDT by grundle

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To: rlmorel

What you said.

Double.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 3:50:20 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: grundle

I have learned the rate of pay is but one issue.
The contract language, and work place rules, have a huge impact on Companies.


22 posted on 07/09/2013 3:50:33 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: rmh47
This is a new company that bought some of the old company's assets including the name.

Good point, its no different from getting a new job and in this case its getting a new job handed to him. I wouldn't love taking the pay cut but it beats the alternative.
23 posted on 07/09/2013 3:51:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This is why we so desperately need Moslem immigration.

They are far and away the ultimate arbiters of what is “insulting” and “offensive.”


24 posted on 07/09/2013 3:52:10 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: grundle

Sorry, but if a person agrees with this writer they are a liberal.

It has nothing to do with how long you have been there it has to do only with what the position is worth to the company.

In DC they finally allowed Wal-Mart to open a store there, now that Wal-Mart is open the city is passing a bill that will raise the minimum wage a couple dollars an hour on Wal-Mart.

I can’t wait to hear the screams when Wal-Mart closes the store and opens across the line in Maryland.


25 posted on 07/09/2013 3:53:21 AM PDT by stockpirate (If conservatives in America were committed to liberty they would Cairo DC!)
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To: grundle

Also, Ron Paul would not support your position, so that makes you a liberal too, I think you are a liberal troll.


26 posted on 07/09/2013 3:55:43 AM PDT by stockpirate (If conservatives in America were committed to liberty they would Cairo DC!)
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To: grundle

Trouble is as a business owner I can go get a different forklift operator for less than $16/hr. The cost of an employee isn’t just their wage. There are many other elements including obamacare to consider.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 3:55:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: shibumi
Which is everything.
28 posted on 07/09/2013 3:57:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: TexGrill

Perhaps they could hire an adult for $11/hr? Or a responsible highschool grad. Lots of options in a free market.

If you want to make more than the business can afford either upgrade your skills or find another company willing to pay more.


29 posted on 07/09/2013 3:57:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grundle

His point of view and your’s is wrong.

He is not “returning” to a job.

His job was done away with when the old company closed.

A new company making the old product has opened up and started production. He was offered a similar job at that new company - and turned it down.

Life is full of choices.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 3:57:55 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: grundle

I’m sorry but I can’t agree with you, as a 52 year old struggling to find work, I would have snatched their hand off.
I know its a bit of a come down to drop from $16.53 to $11, but it would have provided a job and a wage whilst looking for something better!


31 posted on 07/09/2013 3:58:23 AM PDT by davemac.439
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To: cripplecreek

pay cuts suck, being unemployed sucks worse


32 posted on 07/09/2013 3:58:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grundle

After 22 years of work he was making $16 an hour?

In 22 years he could have finished college or gone to a trade school, become an apprentice and then a master tradesman - plumber, electrician, carpenter, etc.

C’mon people, take charge!


33 posted on 07/09/2013 3:59:51 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Jack of all Trades
"Is there really much difference between 1 and 22 years experience operating a fork lift?"

In 22 years this guy didn't desire to do anything other than this or qualify for a better paying position?

34 posted on 07/09/2013 3:59:57 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: grundle

If the new company was going to be forced to pay union scale wages for all their newly hired employees, they NEVER would have purchased the company to begin with.

One of the reasons the previous company was unprofitable was because wages were too high.


35 posted on 07/09/2013 4:01:09 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: grundle

It was the employee union that put Hostess under so I have no sympathy for them. Consider Hostess a start-up company right now; they can’t afford to pay those top salaries.


36 posted on 07/09/2013 4:02:08 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: iowamark
Hostess could not break even when it was union run. Simple as that.

Really? You think a fork truck driver making $16/hr broke the bank?

37 posted on 07/09/2013 4:02:20 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Good post.


38 posted on 07/09/2013 4:02:53 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: grundle

Either get a job locally that pays better or move to an area where pay is better. This is a NEW COMPANY and if you don’t like the wages don’t work there. I assume this is a right to work state.

Had the scum union not pushed the original company over the edge to bankruptcy the workers might have still been there at their original salaries.


39 posted on 07/09/2013 4:03:00 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jack of all Trades

I kinda have a problem with a guy who hasn’t bothered to develop any additional skills beyond his forklift driving skills in 22 years.

Whats it take to become a master forklift operator in a bakery? 20 years? Or maybe 6 months?


40 posted on 07/09/2013 4:03:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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