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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly "Day of Rejection"
Various | Friday, July 5, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/05/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: caww

Did you get any sleep? Seems like you just signed off


3,981 posted on 08/17/2013 8:47:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Truth2012

The world cannot distinguish evil anymore.....if they see anything at all it’s blurred behind the wall of their own false reality.....

for those who know and have the truth it’s stunningly obvious the masses are being lead by media and those who feed it the agendas they want to see.


3,982 posted on 08/17/2013 8:55:42 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yes, it is nonsense. In fact, outside interests appear to be inciting the MB.

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Understand these sources are biased, but the reports may give some insight into negotiations which included McCain and Graham, and Ted Cruz’s 180, all minoritiy members of the Senate Committee on Armed Services.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/08/16/cohen-egypt-interview.cnn.html

What leverage does U.S. have with Egypt?

Former Defense Secretary William Cohen weighs in on the difficulty the U.S. faces in dealing with Egypt.

(Clinton admin RINO, I know.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/world/middleeast/us-officials-fear-losing-an-eager-ally-in-the-egyptian-military.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

WASHINGTON — Most nations, including many close allies of the United States, require up to a week’s notice before American warplanes are allowed to cross their territory. Not Egypt, which offers near-automatic approval for military overflights, to resupply the war effort in Afghanistan or to carry out counterterrorism operations in the Middle East, Southwest Asia or the Horn of Africa.

Losing that route could significantly increase flight times to the region.

American warships are also allowed to cut to the front of the line through the Suez Canal in times of crisis, even when oil tankers are stacked up like cars on an interstate highway at rush hour. Without Egypt’s cooperation, military missions could take days longer.

(snip)


3,983 posted on 08/17/2013 8:57:03 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/17/us-egypt-protests-tamarud-idUSBRE97G07220130817

Egyptian youth leader backs army in battle with Brotherhood

CAIRO | Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:47am EDT

(Reuters) - Mahmoud Badr, the activist whose petition campaign helped to bring down Egypt’s Islamist president, says the bloodshed that has followed is a high but acceptable price for saving the nation from the Muslim Brotherhood.


3,984 posted on 08/17/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by maggief
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To: hoosiermama

Yes some...troubled sleep over this though, so got up sooner....

It’s more than disturbing the medias failures regarding Egypt. I can’t for the life of me figure out the utter blindness of the Journalists on the ground....it’s as though they’ve been sucked into the MB matrix and can’t recognize that fact!

The MB Leaders use of their sheepsters is abundant and working, to move the international community and world leaders .....and the press is just lapping all this blood and death up thru a straw the MBS put in their mouth. There isn’t the matter of proof or evidence , it’s all about the fast food delivery of drama the world wants to see.

But as I see it those who want to know the truth will find it.....but there are few who seek it anymore.


3,985 posted on 08/17/2013 9:03:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: maggief

And not nearly as high as the price our ancestors gave to end slavery in the US.. (Posted just in case any liberals are reading the thread)


3,986 posted on 08/17/2013 9:04:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: maggief; caww; MestaMachine; thouworm; kristinn; All

Pardon me for being blunt.

This is to anyone of the media and the administration who COVERTLY reading this thread:

What’s happening in Egypt is the fault of this administration and their Islamist assistants in the WH. YOU, THE MEDIA, are allied with them to bring about the Moslem Brotherhood (MB, from now on, ignoramuses) to rule the Middle East and finish off Israel (to you lousy traitors to your own race, “supposedly” Jewish progressives).

If you stand on your ears, complemented with your lousy boss’s jug ears, it won’t do a thing to stop Egypt from saving the world from becoming a Caliphate!

For all practical purposes, your 0b0z0allah just just dumped our investment of over thirty four years in our Egyptian ally in Putin’s lap! Are you going to tell your readers and listeners that by cutting the aid to Egypt or forcing her to refuse it in ABROGATING the 1979 Camp David Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel? Of course not, you won’t!

Did you bother to tell the public who won the June 30, 2011 presidential election in Egypt? IT WAS SHAFIQ NOT MORSI, BY 200,000 VOTES AFTER ALL THE CHEATING THAT TOOK PLACE!

Oh, the proof of the above will come out in a House hearing in the fall. If the House Republicans have the balls that a couple of them have, we’ll see Anne Patterson, her deputy and an Egyptian witness who is very well known and respected by the West, testifying under oath on what really happened and why? I know the why, it’s the same tactic used here to scare Americans of black riots, rivers of blood in the street, if so and so happens! Then down of scared Americans throat with the progressive agenda “BUT” you’ll have the false safety!

When asked about MB violence if they lose, Shafiq answered: it will take TWO WEEKS to bring back the security and personal safety that the Egyptian people enjoyed and I guarantee it!

That was his downfall! It was utterly unacceptable to this administran, loaded with MB assistants, to allow driving the MB underground again for another 80 years!

I always said that accusing you of incompetence or ignorance is your best way out rather than exposing your REAL sinister, treacherous agenda to destroy this Republic and Western civiliszation.

The fat lady is starting her concert already. Your MB is all but done INTERNATIONALLY. There’s nothing you and your lousy partners in terrorism can do about. If you could, prey tell, why is Assad still surviving your onslaught?

Hi turkey! A lower case “t” is for 0b0z0, a capital “T” is for the traitor of Kamal Atatürk’s secular constitution, Erdogan!

I wish many of you read this and realize that no matter how much you duck, hide, lie, omit and accuse, your goose is cooked so fast that you have no time to turn the stove off!

See ya, LOSERS!


3,987 posted on 08/17/2013 9:09:41 AM PDT by melancholy (READ MY LIPS, NO POLITICAL ISLAM, EVER!!)
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To: maggief

The US has no leverage now....Obama has created a void and there were and are plenty who have stepped in to fill it. He has laid his hand down cause there’s nothing to play with.....he can only press the other nation leaders and even there he’s only given a polite ear at best.

As to the goods on Obama...I don’t know enough of that story to comment fully...but if it’s there you can be sure the politicians involved are doing what they can to cover and or retrieve... or destroy that at ANY cost. ..and likely working on just that in and out of Egypt.


3,988 posted on 08/17/2013 9:09:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy

Bravo! Bravo!


3,989 posted on 08/17/2013 9:11:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy; MestaMachine; thouworm; maggief; All

Some statements and questions form Egypt Presser today:

Presidency is asked about making the MB illegal and about popular committees’ arrest of foreigners & whether govt condones this.

Presidency:..... We saw yesterday machine guns being used against civilians. Where are the stories on women & children being used as human shield?

Presidency:.... Why are all these reports absent from international media? ....Only reports about peaceful protesters. I see no peaceful protesters.

Presidency: where are the reports about the police brutally killed, on the monuments in Mallawi Museum gobbled up.

Presidency:...... we feel deep bitterness about biased coverage by media & news agencies. Where are the stories about churches burnt?

Presidency: one agency reported that certain initiative accepted by Brotherhood & that government rejected this. False report.

Presidency:....... We as Egyptians feel deep bitterness about international coverage of events.

Presidency asked: International parties given power to mediate but they then directed criticism against measures taken by Egypt. Comment?

Presidency: .....we will be firm in adopting measures against terrorism. No problem with people visiting US Embassy as long as there is no threat......no action taken when it is clear that Egypt is the victim of a plot against it.

Presidency is asked why the anti-terrorism law is not being applied & why certain political leaders are going to the US Embassy and...

Presidency says... we make decisions in their right time.

Presidency is asked about severing relations with Qatar for instigating violence in Egypt.

Presidency:.... Egypt is taking note of who is standing with it and who against it..........Egypt is not a weak state, not a satellite state. It is a sovereign state.

Presidency:....... to those who protested against religious fascism, we will combat religious extremism through security measures and rule of law.

Presidency:...... We pledge to the Egyptian people that we will keep all our promises regarding the roadmap & mandate given by Egyptian people.

Presidency:.... Recent events are all acts of terrorism..... unacceptable to describe this violence as political division.

Presidency re. violence:...... we are not facing political divisions we are facing a war being waged by extremists developing daily into terrorism...... Egyptians are more unified than they were before. Reference to divisions in Egyptian society are wrong.

Presidency:..... we affirmed during last 10 days of Ramadan & Eid that we invited all parties to seek a solution and end violence.......we welcomed efforts made by regional and international powers to make extremist forces return to negotiations. (they refused)


3,990 posted on 08/17/2013 9:32:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm; caww; maggief; MestaMachine; All

I would like to thank all of you on EVERY POST on this thread.

I’m sure others also would like to do the same. However, because of time required to cover these minute by minute events monitored through different media in different languages, it’s very hard to keep up with the courtesy and to keep in mind “thread dilution,” especially for lurkers who are trying to read thousands of post and have to weed through hundreds of “thank yous” and “-:)” and what have you!

An honorable mention to MestaMachine and thouworm; thank you very much and God bless you and protect you.

To others who may feel that they aren’t “answered” or “talked to,” I refer you to the above and quote from “The Godfather:”

NOTHING PERSONAL, IT’S ONLY BUSINESS,

Now after this recorded “dilution” and getting it off my chest, back to business with a vengeance.

PS. My long posts aren’t proof-read. Please forgive me and take it with a grain of salt.

Thank you all,
Mel


3,991 posted on 08/17/2013 9:38:20 AM PDT by melancholy (READ MY LIPS, NO POLITICAL ISLAM, EVER!!)
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To: caww
Not to forget.."THEY WALK AMONG US HERE IN THE US" (Boston streets)


3,992 posted on 08/17/2013 9:40:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy; caww

“The Taliban is on the inside the building”


3,993 posted on 08/17/2013 9:42:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Very brave lad!


3,994 posted on 08/17/2013 9:43:13 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes and they have plenty of advisors from the house of Saud that can help them find the truth as they question him. Water boarding is not even one of the options hee hee.


3,995 posted on 08/17/2013 9:54:29 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: caww

Point :
Is the nazi party illegal in any country? In the USA?

MB should be in same category


3,996 posted on 08/17/2013 9:56:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: crosslink

Egypt: Freedom And Justice Party Headquarters In Alexandria Reportedly Torched
August 17, 2013 | 1653 GMT
The headquarters of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood-led Freedom and Justice Party in Alexandria was torched Aug. 17 following clashes between protesters and authorities, Al Arabiya reported. Elsewhere, four Muslim Brotherhood leaders were arrested in Damanhor, Al Arabiya reported. Earlier, the son of Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Badie was shot and killed during clashes on Aug. 16. The Brotherhood has demonstrated an ability to weather far worse suppression, but this time it is facing a different sort of crisis — one that could strip its status as Egypt’s largest political movement.


3,997 posted on 08/17/2013 9:57:31 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: melancholy

Jouranlist tweeting at the Mosque sight when fire fight first began:

Can I please emphasise I have no idea who the shooter is, he was inside the El-fath minaret shooting down. Army shot back at minaret.

I’m not making this up I tried to film it on my ipad which I’ll post but there was someone shooting from the minaret,..army shot back

This extraordinary ..a full on gun battle is happening right now between security forces and someone in the el-fath mosque minaret

Can anyone explain to me what is going on side ramsis mosque? There is a shooter in the minaret shooting down. Can see gun blast.

Seriously from the top of the el-fath minaret ramsis there is the smoke after a gunshot blast, I can’t see the shooter. I’m so confused

It looks like there are gun shots coming from inside el-fath mosque’s minaret, I don’t understand. Can see the gunshot blast


3,998 posted on 08/17/2013 9:57:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy
Standing Ovation!!!!

(Where is the clapping man gif???)

I just posted on two other threads about Egypt (along with links to this thread):

The “news media” are so guilty that their hands are just as bloody as their pets, the MB.

When the time comes, the American people have to remember the crimes of the media in support of the leftist/moslem tyranny.

3,999 posted on 08/17/2013 10:00:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caww

Breaking...

Reports of Muslim Brotherhood party office being set on fire in Alexandria

Source:
Al Jazeera


4,000 posted on 08/17/2013 10:01:34 AM PDT by maggief
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