Posted on 06/24/2013 4:08:31 PM PDT by NCjim
I could be wrong, of course, but I doubt it.
Apparently that most obvious of counterpoints is off the table as far as the SRM are concerned.
From the president's office on down -- haughtiness, denial, obstruction. All the sounds you hear before the great cataclysmic crash.
I wrote this on another thread where the focus is on Snowden and not the actions of our government.
Oh noes... he broke his promise not to keep secret that the United States Government has trampled the constitution and violated every Americans’ right to privacy. He dared expose the dirty little secret that this government could give a rats’ ass about your/everyone’s constitutional rights.
He showed the hypocrisy of the Right’s belief that the Constitution is scared document and not a living breathing one. His existence exposes our spineless defense of the writers who wrote several amendments covering the rights of privacy to prevent tyranny.
For we folded like a deck of cards and are more alarmed about the person that exposed the massive uncontrolled crushing of our privacy rights than the action itself. I guess all the articles and amendments of the Constitution should come with a disclaimer, “If fighting terrorism all the above is null and void.”
Of course it would be silly to defend the Constitution when we can worry about what Eddie had for breakfast, much more important.
He was an on-site contractor sysadmin at a US government, NSA facility.
And even highly compartmentalized information isn’t being memorized, or scribbled long-hand on pieces of paper stored in safes these days. It’s still going to be computerized somewhere, even if it’s not connected to a global TS network like JWICS.
The problem is that Snowden was the IT guy for some of those computers.
Doing more damage to America’s national security than 0bama and his Commie saboteurs have would be quite a tall order.
>> Personally, I think he was “allowed” to get this sensitive information by the “One”. Remember when Obama said just give me more time when talking to Russian President?
What if this all wasn’t allowed to happen- to give away our secrets...and then claim it was done by a particular person..someone labeled a traitor....who just happens to go to end up in Russia.
Sorry I am just not buying what they are trying to sell us....
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Bingo.
I’ve been shouting this from the rooftops.
Snowden and Wiki leaks are Obama-approved programs!
The problem is that Snowden was the IT guy for some of those computers.
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No doubt. Some of them. His claims, however, infer that he had access to all of those locked up SCIFs and all the associated computers and networks.
That’s just nonsense. There is no way that he could. Maybe 100 Snowdens but not just one.
>There is no America anymore. After a long sickness, it officially died in 2008.<
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Isn’t it about time that our congresscretins realize this?
So I’m guessing you’ve not actually read an entire article on Snowden from start to finish, and you’ve just skimmed headlines.
Either that, or you’re willfully ignorant about anything that doesn’t make Snowden look like your hero, EVEN SNOWDEN’S OWN WORDS:
In his interview with the Post, Snowden divulged information that he claimed showed hacking by the NSA into computers in Hong Kong and the mainland...
...If I have time to go through this information, I would like to make it available to journalists in each country to make their own assessment, independent of my bias, as to whether or not the knowledge of US network operations against their people should be published.”
If you’re waiting with bated breath for details about how the NSA targets Sarah Palin or something, you’re going to be waiting a long time.
The overwhelming majority of what the NSA does is spy on foreigners, and that’s undoubtedly the vast majority of the material he took, and it’s going to be the vast majority of what he leaks in the coming weeks and months.
There’s another possibility; you really like the People’s Republic of China and Russia, and you’re offended that the NSA would spy on them.
That is nothing but pure bullshit. obama and his worshipers have done and continue to do more to harm the United States in 10 minutes than Snowden could do in 10 years. Anything harmful to the United States was passed to the enemies of the United States long before Snowden ever knew it existed. What Snowden was tell the American people what obama was doing. obama put the word out and his deciples responded by roundly condemning Snowden as a traitor. Diane Feinstein says Snowden is a traitoe. I will long be a son of a bitch before I agree with Feinstien on anything. Snowden’s distractors yell and screamthat Snowden violated his oath. Well, every member of Congress, including Feinstein, swore to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. Yet, Feinstein attacks the Second Amendent of the Constitution daily. not a peep of protest from the Snowden attackers about this.
Distraction. The first exposures dealt with wholesale spying on Americans. The gathering of phone records of every American to include time of calls, length of calls, locations of callers, and likely a text translation of every call so they can claim they do not listen. Also every email and private communication on the internet is collected and store for five years. The teaming with British spy agencies that are doing more intrusive spying on us to avoid any constitutional hindrances. Today we learn that IRS targeting was vastly wider than some thought. Yea, I believe you, Eddie”s the problem.
By informing the citizenry about the actions of their government against them?
What if Snowden isn’t working alone? What if he’s the designated point man for a number of principled people within the government apparatus who has volunteered to step forward with the information gathered by a number of sources? If you’ve watched the FOX interview of his father, you don’t have the impression that Snowden could be a willing traitor. What if our government has been taken over by forces that are willfully dismantling all of our traditional institutions, like the Judiciary, the military, and our religious tradition that respects the family and unborn? Given what is happening to us now, where up is all of a sudden down and down is up, is there a more likely explanation? Last week they were saying Snowden couldn’t possibly have tapped into the information he claimed to have, but this week he poses a terrible danger to our country’s security. Does any of this make any sense? When an overwhelming number of Freepers, many of whom who probably served during the Cold War, prefer Putin, what does that tell us?
There isspeculation that he may not be.
What if he’s the designated point man for a number of principled people within the government apparatus who has volunteered to step forward with the information gathered by a number of sources?
It is possible and probably probable. They are dedicated public servants who love our Constitutional Republic form of Government still, but they are getting rarer. And they are closely watching the reaction Snowden [support or non support]is getting from the public.
If you’ve watched the FOX interview of his father, you don’t have the impression that Snowden could be a willing traitor.
I don't watch Fox mews so I have no firsthand knowledge of that.I don't watch ant t.v. net work news programs.
What if our government has been taken over by forces that are willfully dismantling all of our traditional institutions, like the Judiciary, the military, and our religious tradition that respects the family and unborn?
It is and thet went in the second phase on November 4, 2008 and began consolidating their power after the results of November 6, 2012.
Given what is happening to us now, where up is all of a sudden down and down is up, is there a more likely explanation?
In my opinion, no. On november 4, 2008 the entire dynamics of the United States changed. The 2010 dereaied their plans for a while but by 2012 the damage had mostly been [from their point of view] repaired. The Republican Party leadership aided and abetted their cause greatly by neutralizing and or limiting the effectiveness of the Tea Party electees.
Last week they were saying Snowden couldn’t possibly have tapped into the information he claimed to have, but this week he poses a terrible danger to our country’s security.
Well, he must be dealt with severly by them as an example of what happens to someone when they critize the people's god, one barrack obama. And they have saturated this forum with their parrots, moles and judas goats who will chant over and over whatever they are instructed.
Does any of this make any sense?
How do you mean this?
When an overwhelming number of Freepers, many of whom who probably served during the Cold War, prefer Putin, what does that tell us?
It should tell us that we, as a Nation are in deep, deep shit.
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