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This stunt is beyond stupid.
1 posted on 05/05/2013 9:08:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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What I would like to see is a Million Magazine March.
Not rifles, not pistols, just 1 million gun owners showing up with empty, high capacity magazines. Still makes a statement, technically an act of civil disobedience ( although we can claim we’re on our way to a network broadcast)
but no threat of violence.


34 posted on 05/05/2013 9:53:59 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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I agree that this is a bad idea at the present time, and I have my concerns about this particular organizer. However, keep in mind that Sam Adams used similar tactics. He provoked confrontations with the British that were used to turn the people against the British. We may need to consider such tactics at some point.


35 posted on 05/05/2013 9:56:46 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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dang how times have changed, I can remember when I lived in SE DC up on 4th, street. We had a family friend who would take me shooting, it was a 3 mile walk to the rear of a place called Camp Simms, in the woods behind this National Guard site was an outdoor firing range, an open unattended site.

We would openly carry several firearms to our afternoon of shooting, including pistols, .45, 1911 model, 9MM luger, 12 ga pump, M1 garand, M1 carbine. Never in all the trips we made did we ever have anyone say anything to us or have the police come and talk to us, and I mean NEVER.

But this march is a bad idea, it shouldn’t be done on the 4th, and it needs more like 500,000 marchers.


46 posted on 05/05/2013 10:40:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (Planned Parenthood, murdering black children one baby at a time.......where is the outrage)
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Just wait for the inevitable Revolutionary War. Then D.C. Will take fire.


54 posted on 05/05/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by Old Yeller
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I would like to take a moment to point out that you’d be hard pressed to find any point where I’ve been anything but a staunch defender of the Second Amendment.

Found one:

Normally I’d write this [proposed march] off as a bad idea that wouldn’t gain widespread support...

At the risk of "no true Scotsman", I dare suggest that a true supporter of the 2nd, and 1st, and 14th Amendments would jump at the chance to force Fedzilla either to comply with them, or publicly violate them...and then let the chips fall where they may.

58 posted on 05/05/2013 12:35:52 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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Can you imagine the spin that the liberal media will put on such a march? The marchers will have fired the first shot of course. And if the marchers somehow manage to get away from a confrontation with corrupt feds who are looking for excuses to take away gun rights anyway, then I wouldn't be surprised if the names of the marchers will replace the 30 Muslims and 2 Progressive Liberals on the FBI Most Wanted Terrorist list.
“FBI Most Wanted Terrorists”…30 Muslims and 2 Progressive Liberals. NO Right-Wing Patriots.

59 posted on 05/05/2013 1:15:39 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I don’t care how noble the cause or how brilliant the planned action is, I’m not going to follow some commie kook who masquerades as a Republican and lies about his military service to get elected.


60 posted on 05/05/2013 1:29:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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A thousand won’t do it,now if you could get a million or so,now you are talking,but not on 4th of July,there are nothing but tourists there,the bastards causing this mess are no where around


62 posted on 05/05/2013 2:20:21 PM PDT by ballplayer
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Hey Kokesh! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

5.56mm

81 posted on 05/06/2013 10:16:11 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Many on here and others out here will never see freedom in the future. If it weren’t for our founder’s and our ancestors, we wouldn’t exist as we are today, even though we have limited liberty now. Government tyranny is strong and well here and socialism and authoritarianism is firm within the government the bureaucratic police forces. We have to start making stands as what this march is doing because we have the legal RIGHT and moral duty to do so for our country. This isn’t about guns, this is about freedom and liberty. When voting doesn’t work anymore and bureaucrat’s get more powerful and government is so big where states propose sending police into your homes to “inspect for illegal weapons” (and that’s just a taste of what’s been going on and what’s been proposed thus far), you have a runaway train of violators in government and the bureaucratic police officers aren’t no better usually. They’re in fact worse since they’re the ones who actively in your face violate your rights.


86 posted on 05/06/2013 2:25:59 PM PDT by ArmedMG
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I found this on a search for “AK”

A Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out

Adam Kokesh, candidate for the Republican nomination for the US House of Representatives from the Third District of New Mexico, is doing his best to deceive the electorate. He portrays himself as a libertarian conservative, but he is neither libertarian nor conservative (unless he reinvents himself again). Most egregiously, he is attempting to portray himself as a patriotic anti-war/anti-military veteran in a manner reminiscent of John Kerry and Vietnam Veterans against the War (VVAW), in which Kerry tarnished the valor of his brothers-in-arms in order to advance his political career.

As did VVAW, Kokesh’s Iraq Veterans against the War (IVAW) holds that America is an imperialistic country, that the military is merely a tool of the government, and that our soldiers are little more than marauders and murderers who, in the words of John Kerry, behave ‘’in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.’’

I first met Adam when he and a motley group of Code Pink, MoveOn.org, IVAW (Iraq Veterans against the War), and other ‘’representatives’’ of radical anti-American organizations formed up in front of the Army recruiting station in Washington, DC. Their clear intent was to create a disturbance, but the presence of a few dozen Gathering of Eagles members caused them to reconsider their plans.

I approached Adam and struck up a conversation, during the course of which I learned that he considered himself to be a libertarian. I replied that I considered myself a libertarian, as well, and that perhaps we could agree to disagree on the specific issue of the Iraq war. He seemed amenable to that, but his group reconvened in front of the recruiting station a few weeks later and trashed the place. It was then that I realized that the Adam Kokeshes of the world cannot be relied upon to compromise.

The next time I encountered Adam was last summer at an economic conference in St. Louis. That was when I first learned that he was running for Congress. He presided over a “promote Kokesh” seminar that I attended. He spouted off a basic libertarian message without including any of his own biography, which is, to say the least, nasty. Significantly, he claimed to have been honorably discharged as a sergeant from the US Marine Corps. Both claims are false, as will be demonstrated below.

Adam Kokesh is, in my view, a traitor to his country, and certainly to the United States Marine Corps, in which he “served” as a reservist for several months in a civil affairs unit in Iraq. Upon returning to the States, he enrolled in Claremont McKenna College in California.

While at Clarement McKenna, a pistol was stolen from his car, and Adam dutifully reported the theft to the campus police, who asked him where the pistol came from. Adam said that it was a war souvenir from Iraq, and it was not long before the USMC brought charges against him for smuggling an illegal weapon into the US. His then-pending discharge as a sergeant was changed to that of a corporal.

Adam just didn’t know when to let well-enough alone, because in 2007 he was involved in a street demonstration in DC in which several anti-war protesters were arrested. It seems that he was involved in a bit of street theater in which he led a “combat patrol,” in uniform, to protest the Iraq War. This event was sufficient newsworthy as to cause the Marine Corps to investigate Adam’s involvement in what was obviously an unpatriotic act.

It seems that when the Marine major assigned the investigation contacted Adam by e-mail, Adam replied with a “f__k yourself,” and the Corps thereupon initiated proceedings that resulted in his having his theretofore-honorable discharge downgraded to a general discharge.

Adam then continued to drive nails into his political coffin, as evinced by his visit to the US Army Garrison in Ansbach, Germany. His actions there were, by any measure, seditious, if not downright treasonous. In his own words, Kokesh imparted the following message to our troops:

“We are here to reach out to active duty members of the United States military stationed in Germany and let them know what they can do to help stop the US occupation of Iraq. Soldiers need to know that when they decide to resist, they will have the support and thanks of the global moral majority. We are also here to support the German peace movement. As in the United States, protestors are often dismissed as ignorant and childish, but with the voices of veterans backing them up, they have the credibility they deserve. It is clear that real change will not come from your government or ours, but rather from the righteous voice of compassion.”

“The people of Ansbach have chosen to stand up not only to the imperialism of the United States, but also their own country’s history of complicity. The US military has long chosen its own tactical advantage over the consideration of the people in the communities that it affects and claims to protect. It is sad that it has taken so long for Germans to make this stand, but we support them in their opposition.”

“Germany has long been complicit in America’s aggression. There is no longer any valid premise for the vast American presence in this country. It is not for your security or benefit, but supposedly for the benefit of America, and it is not in the world’s best interest. The lesson of World War II should not be to remain silent during the next war of aggression.” [Adam Kokesh; May 13, 2007; US Army Garrison, Ansbach, Germany]

A complete account may be viewed here.

His personal report is here.

Adam Kokesh probably wishes that he had not been so open about his disloyalty, because he is now pretending to be a patriotic, libertarian-leaning, conservative Republican in his congressional campaign. Sorry, Adam; that just won’t wash. You have shown your true colors, and America-loving patriots just won’t let you get away with your masquerade.

Go ahead and renew your ties with the Code Pink/Winter Soldier/George Soros/IVAW crowd. Take off that suit and tie, and let your hair grow long in a John Kerry-lookalike manner. Be what you want to be, as long as it’s not pretending to be an American patriot.


Larry Bailey
Captain (SEAL), USN (Ret.)
Chocowinity, NC
American Patriots Against Kokesh


87 posted on 05/06/2013 2:49:47 PM PDT by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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"This stunt is beyond stupid. "

Right. We have an elected government, not a 3rd world gun barrel government. Election losers have gone nuts telling they have been screwed. I like this country, warts and all. You got Obama because you tried to foist McCain and Romney and a job-exporting trade policy on the voters and it didn't work. Win the fing election next time and stop moaning. Be an American.

88 posted on 05/06/2013 3:09:16 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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