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The Controversial Moment SWAT Teams Ordered Innocent Neighbors Out Of Their Houses At GUNPOINT
Mail Online ^ | April 23, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 04/23/2013 2:20:24 PM PDT by Biggirl

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To: Hot Tabasco

“They weren’t “FORCED” out of their homes at gunpoint......they were asked to leave their homes and were personally escorted by law enforcement officials for their own protection........”

They were ordered out at gunpoint, ordered to keep their hands above their heads, and were ordered down the street to be searched.


61 posted on 04/23/2013 3:47:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
The cops did that at Columbine ~ apparently there's this idea that a terrorist might try 'scaping with the vics, and try to hide who he is, but keep his hand on his gun, so have everybody raise their hands in the air and you know that's not him.

Otherwise you turn yourself into a target person.

62 posted on 04/23/2013 3:48:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator
The picture of the ICE guys above is way different ~ they had a warrant.

The ICE spokesgal at the time was that Krashaar woman that showed up saying Herman Caine had sexually or something ~ harassed her or something. She's currently or was 2 years back one of Axelrod's on call gals who will come in and tell the newsies anything he wants her to.

I just don't know how he meets all those women.

63 posted on 04/23/2013 3:51:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: chulaivn66

Most likely what would have happen to anyone that they thought was getting in the way of the Hot Pursuit. Their hot pursuit was about as cold as liquid Nitrogen as the prep was outside the zone and was found only after they ended their restriction and was found by an alert ‘civilian’, which to some is interchangeable with the name serf.


64 posted on 04/23/2013 3:51:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: muawiyah

Having held the job and gained the experience this was not ‘hot pursuit’. This was a search to regain contact and apprehend. Much as a search for any other suspect wherein he is no longer being seen or heard and has had an opportunity to acquire refuge of some sort. Your argument would be better served if you avoided the term ‘hot pursuit as the time span does not fit the circumstance.


65 posted on 04/23/2013 3:55:01 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Kartographer

They’d searched that place earlier ~ it was just across the street from ‘the zone’ ~ but that made it ‘in the zone’. They didn’t waste street time passing by houses.


66 posted on 04/23/2013 3:57:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: potlatch

I agree. We as people need to be treated with respect at least for our rights. If the police want respect it’s a two-way street.


67 posted on 04/23/2013 3:57:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: chulaivn66
Thanks to modern technology 'hot pursuit' has several new dimensions. They computed where he could be and did surveillance from space, and upon someone on the ground confirming where he probably was, he was cotched.

You didn't think those satellite shots were just BS did you? They also used thermographic techniques to verify a body was in the boat.

68 posted on 04/23/2013 3:59:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Wait a minute, they had already supposedly searched that area and had reduced their ‘zone area’ - which eliminated the spot where he was hiding. I’ve read that numerous times.

The video I watched a couple of times, was taken by a neighbor from their window. You could see 3 policemen go up to the door and bang on it.

I’m sure you’ve read that he was found when the homeowner went out to smoke a cigarette and noticed his boat covering was awry.......


69 posted on 04/23/2013 4:01:23 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, I guess you could make a case that all of Boston is was in the zone as they hadn’t had eye contact with him for hours.I bet you could make a case for them being in hot pursuit for Jimmy Hoffa.


70 posted on 04/23/2013 4:02:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Baloney.

http://www.businessinsider.com/images-of-swat-teams-in-boston-2013-4

Looks pretty gun point to me.


71 posted on 04/23/2013 4:02:23 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: potlatch

A reasoned discussion about this matter is at this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011207/posts

Some good info by a FReeper attorney and a retired cop.


72 posted on 04/23/2013 4:02:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: WorksinKOP

Boy did you nail it.
Muslims hate dogs.
Our rulers love muslims.

Had they turned loose several tracking hounds, they would have found this feral human quickly and would not have to terrorize law abiding citizens. But maybe that was the objective. Get citizens used to having their houses searched by heavily armed law enforcement.

Should have turned loose a pack of german shepherds and let them have their way with the little muslim f*****r.

just saying.


73 posted on 04/23/2013 4:02:41 PM PDT by Texas resident (Watch the other hand.)
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To: Rusty0604

I agree Rusty, but our world has changed. We are divided in two now and hate is rampant. God help us.


74 posted on 04/23/2013 4:03:13 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: Gen.Blather
Interesting question. The ultimate answer was a judge required it due to another court telling him what was the requirements for a search warrant. At the local level, who knows?
75 posted on 04/23/2013 4:07:58 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Kartographer
Satellite observation hasn't been tested in court but aerial observation has. Lawyer buddy of mine a good 30 years back won a case on a helicopter observation (for his client, the criminal) because the judges didn't at that time quite understand the technique.

He's said he couldn't win that case today.

You don't need eye contact and haven't had to for quite some time.

76 posted on 04/23/2013 4:08:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

An implication that because of my time of service my skills are outdated? An attack on my point by attacking my experience or the tools available at the time? It is still an effort to regain contact through the means of a search regardless of the technology. It is not a ‘hot pursuit’ where in the suspect is under observation through sight or hearing. If those circummstances had existed they would have known where he was. Correct?


77 posted on 04/23/2013 4:09:16 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Texas resident

The cops had a reasonable fear of encountering a guy with a bomb.


78 posted on 04/23/2013 4:09:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hot Tabasco

>>They weren’t “FORCED” out of their homes at gunpoint......they were asked to leave their homes and were personally escorted by law enforcement officials for their own protection........<<

YOU need to watch the video on this thread before you make any comments about “Many of the replies on the crap threads like this makes FR look like the right wing equivalent of DU.............Sheesh!”

They have their hands in the air. That’s not voluntary.


79 posted on 04/23/2013 4:10:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Just curious, what did they do with those families who refused to leave their homes? Were they shot or cuffed and sent off to the internment camp?”

I don’t know what they did with the folks who refused to leave. What do you think they did? And, where did you get the information that some refused to leave?


80 posted on 04/23/2013 4:10:40 PM PDT by saleman
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