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The Case Against Ayn Rand
Pajamas Media ^ | 04/01/2013 | Benjamin Kerstein

Posted on 04/01/2013 7:47:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Rand proclaimed such things as compassion, generosity, charity, and empathy as evil and enemies of humanity. That this is monstrous should be readily apparent.

The author should look at who has been peddling those things to the public over the last 80 years and why, and then ask himself what really is monstrous.

21 posted on 04/01/2013 8:27:31 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Sherman Logan

Most people have never heard of Ayn Rand and have no clue who she was.


22 posted on 04/01/2013 8:33:37 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: camle
april fools. right? this guy cannot be serious

That's my take.

23 posted on 04/01/2013 8:34:05 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: camle

Original article was posted to PJ on 3/28.

So yes, the original Author is serious...

And apparently mildly retarded.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 8:35:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: DManA
No one understood the problem and its consequences better than she. Her solutions on the other hand..........

Aye, there's the rub.....It's the same with Karl Marx, he could explain all of the problems with Capitalism, but his "cure" was even worse than the disease.

25 posted on 04/01/2013 8:36:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dead Corpse

mildly retarded? i think not;)


26 posted on 04/01/2013 8:44:46 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree with some of the points made by the author.It’s been several yrs since i read “Atlas Shrugged”.But i recall the primary theme addressed the incremental encroachment by the government upon society/economy to the point where big gov had almost total control.The result was an economy that was dysfunctional-at best.I do agree that Rand comes across as a bareknuckles anything goes capitalist and(imo)rather deficient in the empathy department(read “The Fountainhead”).She was certainly flawed(quite a character!).Anyways,I’m not a “Randian”,but I agree with much of her philosophy-to a point.Thanx for the post.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 8:49:14 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: SeekAndFind

Like anything else, mine the gold and leave the tailings.

“There is no way to rule innocent men...” - Ayn Rand


28 posted on 04/01/2013 8:59:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, don’t stop there now, tell us why... IOW, elaborate please.

There is no cult of Ayn Rand. Just a lot of people who appreciate that she did an excellent job of articulating the best philosophy for a free people and an free economic system, as opposed to communism or socialism, which are currently taking over and killing this country.

If you can't get people to vote for what's obviously best for our country, it's society, and it's economy, it is due to population ignorance, or the outright desire for economic destruction. A significant percentage of the voting population, can't even read, let alone understand different economic ideas and philosophies. If we have to chase those voters to win elections, we might as well continue our current economic suicide and let the fat lady sing.

If you know nothing of Ayn Rands philosophy, read "Atlas Shrugged", it is exactly what communism/socialism does to a country, unless it is beaten back with force. It tells the story of what we are experiencing right now as a country.

There is not simply a competition of ideas at work here. Conservatives represent freedom, prosperity, success and advancement. Liberals represent deception, intellectual imprisonment, immorality, stagnation, decline and death.

There is nothing about Ayn Rand's ideas, that aren't immediately superior to any liberal ideas.
29 posted on 04/01/2013 9:04:01 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind
And this crisis was caused, to a great extent, by Randian economics.

No need to read past here without a HUGE barf alert. The guy's a rube.

30 posted on 04/01/2013 9:05:33 AM PDT by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Kerstein doesn’t seem to know much about U.S. economics and either hasn’t actually read or understood Ayn Rand’s work. In my experience, communists-at-heart find Rand so threatening to their world view that they can’t get a mental grip on her meaning. To protect themselves, they misrepresent her views, and try to take her novels literally, rather than as abstract presentations of principles.

Rand had no problem with VOLUNTARY social activity, specialization of labor, complex integrated societies, and compassion/charity. What she opposed was COERCION. Through the application of reason to experience, Rand knew that socialists inevitably force others to join communal efforts against their interests and will — precisely because the type of people who join freely are the takers, not the makers. Hillary Clinton is a perfect Rand villain; her justification for forcing young healthy people into paying for healthcare for others is classic: “We need their money in the system”. Armed robbery for what she dictates is a “benevolent” purpose is ok.

Rand relentlessly exposed the Left’s game of false benevolence and compulsory altruism as a scam. “Collective” action wherein an elite determines the will of the group turns the group members into dehumanized slaves, who receive more than they contribute temporarily —until it all dries up, and everyone has nothing. Rand’s work argues, correctly, that individuals creating wealth through free market economics bring freedom and higher standards of living for all that are sustainable. But that’s not what the Democrats/Socialists/Leftists really want, is it?


31 posted on 04/01/2013 9:08:49 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind

“Beware of the moneychangers”. Even Rand chastized those who sought to make money for the sake of making money, or more aptly, printing money out of thin air, so that they could gamble it to make profits out of thin air. Once currency stopped being a store of value and work, and became nothing more than gambling fodder, is when the financial structure of the west started to fall apart. Once people lose faith in the currency and financial institutions, expect the events that have unfolded in Cyprus and the EU to happen here.


32 posted on 04/01/2013 9:16:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: stylecouncilor

Rand ping. And I don’t mean Paul....


33 posted on 04/01/2013 9:18:05 AM PDT by onedoug
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Bookmark to rebut this fatuous nonsense at a later date.

Your time is too valuable to try and rebut this drivel. At worst, you'll get into a game of "whack-a-mole" in a discussion with those who disagree with you.

I get into arguments with my liberal alumni friends all the time. What Rand says to me revolves around personal choice.

For example, I give to my church because I am trading value for value, not because I feel an obligation to do so. My parish plays a large role in strengthening my faith and my family...it's only natural that I would support it through donations of time and money.

My current reading is focused on Hank Rearden and his interactions with his family, and the extreme "danger" of the "guiltless man". A good friend of mine here at work was having the same problem with his daughters (18 & 23) as Hank was having with his mother and brother: the guilt trip being laid on him for not bending to their every whim.

I laughed and said, "going Galt, are you?" When he responded with a WTF look, I responded "you really need to read AS, and focus on the family troubles of Hank Rearden." His daughters are in for a rude awakening! lol

34 posted on 04/01/2013 9:19:39 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: factoryrat

Coining “The Aristocracy of Pull” was brilliant.


35 posted on 04/01/2013 9:20:38 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: SeekAndFind

mark - maybe read later
I am not sure that Objectivism is compatible with Christianity


36 posted on 04/01/2013 9:25:24 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This tool doesn’t have even the slightest idea what Rand’s philosophy is all about. There’s nothing “randian” that created the latest crash. There’s nothing evil about helping the poor and greed is not a moral good.

Rand was about keeping to your own values, not subverting them to someone else’s.


37 posted on 04/01/2013 9:29:42 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Chewbarkah
Great analysis. I assumed that the author had simply not read any Rand but a sort of auto-immune response to the concepts she espouses may be the actual truth.

Liberals never seem to notice that Ms. Rand glorified "men of the mind" regardless of how lofty or lowly were their professions.

38 posted on 04/01/2013 9:30:55 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tax laws are complex and may change at any time.)
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To: camle
They used the word "eschewing" in a sentence correctly. They then go on to miss the point of pretty much everything in Objectivism and Rand's take on it regarding economic issues.

Definitely a double-digit IQ... But can probably tie their own shoes without help.

39 posted on 04/01/2013 9:36:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: don-o
My goodness, NO!

To Rand, mystics were deceivers of moochers - no better, and possibly worse - than looters.

For comparison, think of Muslim clerics, the Reverend Moon, the Reverend Jessie Jackson and a litany of "spiritual leaders" deceiving their flocks.

40 posted on 04/01/2013 9:36:55 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tax laws are complex and may change at any time.)
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