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Marijuana: A Gift of the Left to America’s Youth: CO and WA already having bad consequences
National Review ^
| 03/12/2013
| Dennis Prager
Posted on 03/12/2013 6:54:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Monty22002
“Itll be both. When people dont have to hide it, theyll use it in your face.”
Rocky Mountain High !!
To: Star Traveler
The left already gets those. Those incapable of using any given drug responsibly sink to the societal bottom, tethered to the rest of us by an anchor of social services that maintain them and
keep them voting for democrats. They have nothing to lose, so for the most part the state merely processes them repeatedly through their system, if at all, for violations.
Meanwhile, the person who utilizes responsibly, holds a job, pays taxes, etc... runs the risk of being looted or killed by the state for their statutory violation because they have assets.
If legalized, with certain protective caveats allowing the law abiding to defend themselves and denying state subsidized care to the irresponsible (ending it altogether would be best), then the irresponsible would slowly weed themselves out of the body politic...
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:45:36 AM PDT
by
Axenolith
(Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
To: Little Ray
I recall two potheads damn near sleeping at a major intersection traffic light. It is true as the county sheriff was a neighbor of mine, and; he arrested the driver. The driver was so stoned he was talking about colors. That was 1978.
Frankly I disagree, and; the US army alone has a large fort in CO. I would probably close the Fort down or make the state off limits. With the losers Obama has thrown on the military I bet that Fort Carson becomes a real popular place, plus commanders will be involved in UCMJ actions often there.
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:49:57 AM PDT
by
Lumper20
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To: ken5050
That would be fine, Article 1 Section 10 ...”no law impairing contracts”...
‘Course, 20th century employment laws have pretty much gutted that...
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:50:37 AM PDT
by
Axenolith
(Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
To: SeekAndFind; All
To: Lumper20
They were creating a hazard and operating a vehicle while impaired. Both good reasons to arrest them. Whether they were drunk or stoned should be irrelevant.
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:53:05 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
To: UCANSEE2
Yes, your right: "They talk about it more on the RELIGION threads than they do on the DRUG Promotion threads.
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:53:22 AM PDT
by
sr4402
To: wardaddy
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
No subgroup thinks and acts in a more uniform manner than the pot smoker. Their words and deeds are the most predictable of all. Have you really closely examined enough subgroups to honestly claim to have observed a statistically relevant correlation?
The Amish... tatooed Oktoberfest attendees... diabetic Maori bookkeepers... Presbyterian taxidermists... left-handed color-blind saxophonists?
In fact, have you even undertaken an objective investigation of enough pot-smokers to make a qualified statement? How many hundreds of pot-smokers have you interviewed?
If I were you, I'd exercise more caution in passing such across-the-board judgements.
Regards,
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posted on
03/12/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT
by
alexander_busek
(Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
To: SeekAndFind
The New Left, and their spawn such as Obama, had their psyches and world views shaped in large part based on their marijuana and hallucinogenic drug use.
It’s a major contributor to the mush head thinking that has allowed so many to become liberal and left and for it to be have been mainstreamed.
To: Bitsy
Big Gulps versus small bladders....
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:04:21 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
To: sr4402
And it has not been getting worse lately?You are suffering from the so-called "Observation Selection Effect."
Regards,
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:07:43 AM PDT
by
alexander_busek
(Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
To: Road Glide
I believe so. At any rateone House of their ‘leglature has approved them.
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT
by
sport
To: manc
Thanks for the response.
Sounds like you had a lot of ‘adversity’ growing up.
You know what they say.... Adversity breeds character.
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:12:44 AM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: manc
The road to Hell is paved with the good intentions of bureaucrats and politicians. And unintended consequences are just that, and, in this case, whimsically unintended. Effin' Revenuer liberals.
I live in Seattle and I don't believe that tens of thousands of pot virgins have now, with the passage of legalizing pot, lost their pot virginity. If you smoked it before (teenager or adult), you're still smoking it afterwards. And, if you didn't smoke it before, you're not likely to begin to smoke it, simply because you can buy it from State-approved sources, when it was readily available from friends and family. Of course, as in everything, there will be exceptions.
Now it is simply in the open, and you can smoke it and sell it openly, without undue fear of the Man. The State simply wanted to tax pot. Revenuers. Whether or not one falls into the "Pot is evil/addictive" category or "Pot is harmless" category, didn't matter to the politicians and revenuers in Olympia; they just wanted another tax source. And now they have it. The War on Drugs is an abject, horribly wasteful, and tragic failure for generations of Americans. And legalizing pot is a lame attempt by politicians to justify taxing one more thing (if you can't beat drugs, may as well tax 'em).
But it remains to be seen, whether the State can take in enough tax 'revenue' to offset/justify the real human damage caused by accidents/injuries/violence from pot smokers/drivers. And whether the State has insulated/exempted themselves from possible liability lawsuits (probably).
I think the novelty of openly smoking pot will wear off, sooner rather than later, just as alcohol did when we were teenagers. The illegality of the thing made it interesting and edgy; but too ready access ends up making it boring, and people will move on to the next thing that titillates them.
$.02
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:15:46 AM PDT
by
Miguk
('Equality' of Opportunity equals Inequality of Outcomes)
To: sr4402
Please.... it's you're, not your.
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:18:26 AM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Put another way - if you want to create a command/control/authoritarian society - what better way to do it then have a population of zoned out stoners who only care about eating Doritos, playing video games and are gullible when it comes to statements about how all this stuff is good, fair, for the children etc.Yeah, like in North Korea!
Regards,
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:20:00 AM PDT
by
alexander_busek
(Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
To: sr4402
The real problem is this kind of immorality is going around the world. Since the Lord has dealt with such in the past - Babel, Flood of Noah, the Fall of the Roman Empire - What will it be next? Was there prohibition during biblical times? Does the Bible say there should be such laws?
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:25:13 AM PDT
by
Ken H
To: SeekAndFind
So drug warriors, are you going to defend the Tenth Amendment and support CO and WA’s constitutional authority; or are you going to whore your principles out by supporting fedgov and the fraudulent Wickard Commerce Clause?
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:29:07 AM PDT
by
Ken H
To: babble-on
I’m old enough to remember when abortion was illegal and the same argument was made...”It’s my body! It’s a matter of privacy...” and other such facetious nonsense.
Now labor can be induced at full term and the baby tossed into the trash.
The dope users are not interested in freedom but their own habits and when people are murdered to feed their habit they couldn’t care less. Both sides of the equation have blood on their hands...seller and buyer...just like the abortionist and their customers.
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posted on
03/12/2013 10:34:04 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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