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Posted on 02/14/2013 5:46:20 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Old Unitarians have too much time on their hands...
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posted on
02/14/2013 9:45:58 PM PST
by
GOPJ
( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
To: Fiji Hill
Leftys are so stupid, at that time there were no laws against it ergo, they couldn’t be illegals...
To: so_real
Where did the indians have it written down. They hadn’t even invented the wheel when others landed on the shores. Being tribal, they killed each other just like the arabs and african tribes do..Without the great satan, the arabs and muslims would be killing each other, just as they do today, but for religious reasons
To: Nachum
America needs more whistleblowers.
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posted on
02/15/2013 4:11:08 AM PST
by
FES0844
To: Isabel C.; goat granny
You propose the Native American indians were required to have a centralized government and a written work of law established before they had the right to view Europeans as unrequested, and in many cases, unwanted immigrants? I think they did a fine job making their point of view known without such. By simple example, the First and Second Cherokee Wars were engaged by the entire Cherokee nation in an attempt to defend their lands from colonial encroachment. Don't sugar coat it or pretend it didn't happen. This nation wasn't given to our ancestors; they won it, by force. And if we forget that simple fact, or worse, ignore it, we'll find that our land -- our inheritance from them - has been won by a contemporary invader and revised into a likeness that is not our own. I'd rather learn from their mistake and defend our borders with fervor now than to fall as they did.
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posted on
02/15/2013 6:05:56 AM PST
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: goat granny
That’s missing the point. Regardless of any “legalities”, if you look at the Pilgrims akin to criminal alien invaders (my referred description of “illegal immigrants”), it should indeed be a cautionary tale.
The natives failed (either through lack of foresight, will, or strength) to control the influx of European settlers, which eventually led to the settlers taking over their lands and essentially leaving three options to the remaining natives: 1) die in a futile attempt to fight the invaders, 2) adopt the invaders’ language, culture, and laws to fit into the invaders’ society, or 3) keep their own language, culture, and laws, but be herded into “reservations” bequeathed them by their conquerors.
What makes the current invasion from (primarily) our southern border any different? We have invaders who are coming to colonize, with no attempt to adapt to our culture, but rather to bring theirs with them and impose it on the areas they being to control. (Many Muslims do the same, though I think more often through the legal immigration channels.) We certainly have the foresight (laws) and ability/strength to deal with the problem, but as a culture, we lack the will to do so. The net result will be the same, though, given enough time — the invaders will reach critical mass and replace American culture with their own, leaving fight, adapt, or segregation as the only options.
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posted on
02/15/2013 6:23:54 AM PST
by
kevkrom
(If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
To: so_real
I also think defending our borders is of up most importance or else we are not a country. Politicians want the votes, they won't do it...It took several hundred years to go from coast to coast and many Indian tribes were awesome warriors, other tribes were not...some were in poor shape for lack of food or were small tribes. They did not fare well. I am not trying to sugar coat anything (or at least I didn't think so) lands are won by war, its always been that way and many tribes were fierce. This land was taken by our ancestors because there ended up being more of us than them. The plains Indians didn't give up easily...the Seminole never signed a peace treaty that I can remember. And weather one wants to believe it or not, the tribes were not a united front to push back the white man. If they all did, they would have probably kept most of their lands...tribal cultures don't work that way and some tribes would make slaves our of captured tribes during their wars...
I did not propose the Native Americans have central government as you state, but they lived the land and had only the claim on the land they could keep by force.... I think you and I may agree on several points,
To: so_real
The Wampanoag Indians made a treaty with the pilgrims and sold them land, so no, they were not illegal aliens.
To: so_real
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posted on
02/18/2013 8:31:01 AM PST
by
TurboZamboni
(Looting the future to bribe the present)
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