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Are Sandyhook disbelievers barred from FR ?
various and youtube ^ | February 8, 2013 | knarf, various youtube

Posted on 02/08/2013 8:28:52 AM PST by knarf

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To: knarf

Your post is only semi-coherent to me, but you seem to be saying that because Satan is real, it’s possible that unseen enemies within our gov’t could stage a hoax this large.

I posit that Satan could just as easily run a psy-op campaign against Christians by sucking them into ridiculous conspiracy theories that keep them distracted from their actual relationship with Christ.

Two people can only keep a secret if one of them is dead. A hoax with this many participants is improbable.


121 posted on 02/08/2013 12:34:58 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: knarf
To all you DOUBTERS out there.. Be prepared to go WTF??!!!

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/tag/richard-sexton/

122 posted on 02/08/2013 12:42:03 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
I don't understand;

Doubt it's real or doubt it's false ?

123 posted on 02/08/2013 12:49:59 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: carriage_hill; knarf

That’s funny. When I made my comment in post 17 about none of the posts being removed yet, there weren’t any that looked like they ever would be removed. Maybe the moderator just removed a random post to keep up the intrigue?


124 posted on 02/08/2013 2:32:37 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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This firehouse footage shows that all ambulances are there, and locked in place so they are useless. That should be decisive in itself.

Also see this great helicopter footage of school, which is 200 yards away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA1P7lSAog

You’ll see no ambulances, no frenzy, no kids. Max Malone theorizes that the school was always empty (not in use), thus there’s nobody to evacuate, nobody to carry to hospital, nobody to put in an ambulance, so why bother with them?

Weirdly, it’s possible that few or none died; and Adam Lanza was never at the school, not alive anyway. I’ve been thinking the best comparison is when David Copperfield makes an airplane disappear.


The other two BIG discrepancies are: 1) parents, etc. who don’t cry; 2) websites, etc. that appeared early.

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125 posted on 02/08/2013 2:41:36 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice; All

PS

This is the latest, hippest summary I’ve seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwcUy4TsCM


126 posted on 02/08/2013 2:50:01 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

What I see is that time and date stamps and anything identifying the original source has been carefully removed so the voice over can insert their own context and create discrepancies out of whole cloth.

And nobody can call them on it without first spending hours tracking down the raw footage source.

But the unemployed basement dwellers have nothing but time to make stuff up in order to feel relevant and empowered.

You should step out of their circle jerk before it’s too late.


127 posted on 02/08/2013 4:25:42 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

That helicopter footage is eerie...


128 posted on 02/09/2013 7:54:49 AM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: servantoftheservant; BruceDeitrickPrice
That helicopter footage is eerie...

The footage or the Aussie narrating it who clearly doesn't know what he is seeing nor what he is talking about.

Does he even know that at that point there was no one left alive in the school to take to the hospital or is he just wilfully ignorant???

129 posted on 02/09/2013 8:20:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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*** How plausable IS Sandyhook being a hoax? ***

Somewhere between zero and ... zero. I've seen a lot of those YouTube 'False Flag' / Hoax Videos plus the comments by the cultists. Every single one of those people are certifiable. Seriously those Sandy Hook 'False Flag', hoax conspiracy, people are just too much. They're 106 worse than Truthers: 'Crisis Actors', WTF?!? Granted I may have missed one or two Videos claiming it was 'the Joooooos', or a Mossad Black Op but that's about it.

And ... I love a good conspiracy, like JFK getting whacked. IMO, if Oswald acted alone then I was the 4th man on the Apollo 11 mission and 1st one on the Moon after Neil Armstrong. (PLEASE don't anyone say that was a hoax too!}

130 posted on 02/09/2013 8:42:32 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
This is the latest, hippest summary I’ve seen:

Why is that??? Are you the yahoo dancin' around in it??

131 posted on 02/09/2013 9:07:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice; All
Then There Is THIS .. January 29, 2013
132 posted on 02/09/2013 10:35:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Now that was just a drill.

See how easy it is to tell the difference between a drill and the real a thing.


133 posted on 02/09/2013 11:57:14 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Not in the beginning ... it took the 6 o’clock news to settle it


134 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:56 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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But they did settle it by 6 o’clock that day.


135 posted on 02/09/2013 12:31:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
You're right .. they're not out to get us

Start at the 1:06 mark ... your next, high ranking, I can do anything I want gummint official

136 posted on 02/09/2013 1:06:40 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Stay focused, knarf. That has nothing to do with Sandy Hook.


137 posted on 02/09/2013 1:17:56 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: knarf

All I can ask is, you have to be sh$!ing me.


138 posted on 02/09/2013 1:22:41 PM PST by Toespi
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"The children" hjave been used since the 70's (as I remember ... I could be wrong on the date) because we love our kids and put our women on pedestals.

The poor, starving children were used to promote the "Great Society" and the "War on Poverty"--and don't forget "Trick or Treat for UNICEF". I'll see your '70s and raise you a decade. (60s)

Interesting thread, knarf. It's odd haw so many are in such a hurry to shout down inconsistencies (and there are a wad of them, especially in the earlier reports before the story got homogenized/Pasteurized, and bottled up). Especially considering that the best defense the Administration has had for many of its acts is that they read like something from an outlandish action novel. Just bringing the charges sounds like a conspiracy theory--even for things we know were done. Fast and Furious comes to mind, and in a saner day would have been discarded out of hand as a crackpot theory, even though we know it happened. We still haven't seen someone's school transcripts and other CV.

When the best defense of an administration has been that its crimes are unbelievably outlandish, bringing ridicule, not rational answers to defend against accusations, anything out of the ordinary merits scrutiny.

No sense in the shoutdown, or flaming each other, I think a rational discussion of the facts--or even the contradictions in different 'fact sets' would be a great thing, and possibly do more to expose any irregularities than slinging around wads of flawed reports and ad hominem attacks.

If we just had who, what, where, when for each report as the day progressed, showed which were incompatible with video, streaming radio (911) chatter, personnel movements and actions, etc. that might go a long way toward sorting the mess out.

No one denies there was a lot of misinformation flying around. The question is one of whether that is the 'fog of reporting' or something more sinister (smokescreen).

Either way, it sure hasn't stopped the MSM from calling for Eddie Eagle, served up roasted and stuffed, and an unusually robust vilification of firearms and their owners.

I have often maintained that the proliferation of so-called conspiracy theories is merely the attempt to explain the otherwise unexplainable.

Given the knowledge that the current administration has

> already pushed the boundaries of what was once credible by arming street gangs and foreign drug cartels in an attempt to produce statistics which could be used to promote the denial of a fundamental Civil Right (no doubt, involving more than one person in the know, and hence, a conspiracy, by definition), and

>the sheer amount of mid/disinformation about this event,

>the haste to abridge that right,

>the tremendous and wholehearted complicity of the media, if in no other role than to muddle the events of that day, but also lustily promoting the agenda of those who would try to take a fundamental Right, Who needs a theory.

The only question is one of how deep the conspiracy goes, and to what levels the Government, the media, and the anti-gun people would go.

That won't be discovered by ignoring that there are groups who are closely allied, if not coordinating to remove a fundamental Right from our culture. Whether that is a question of being ready to jump on the issue before the bodies have cooled, or it goes farther, has not been completely explored. Only by calmly comparing the story lines, finding inconsistencies, and ferreting out the facts by rationally comparing them will something close to the truth be known.

Then, let the chips fall where they may.

139 posted on 02/09/2013 3:04:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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No sense in the shoutdown, or flaming each other, I think a rational discussion of the facts--or even the contradictions in different 'fact sets' would be a great thing, and possibly do more to expose any irregularities than slinging around wads of flawed reports and ad hominem attacks.

Seems reasonable. But not happening on FR since the SH event. Perhaps you can help change the attack environment into a civilized one. I failed.
140 posted on 02/10/2013 12:45:45 PM PST by Resettozero
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