It’s so laughable but I really want to scream.
Common sense is truly dead.
OK Let’s move forward with this idea.
Same test to get into the military
Same aptitude, education, and physical ability.
Same training. Technical,emotional, and physical
Let’s see who comes out the other side.
They should require any woman wanting to become a ground grunt to watch “Band of Brothers,” “The Pacific” (particularly the Peleliu sequences), Hamburger Hill, and “They Were Soldiers,” and then ask her if she really thinks she can handle brutal, gory combat, in filthy conditions, of that intensity?
By all means put men and women in the same foxhole. Why should gays have all the fun?
The “she” is not important. It is the fighting machine that is important and anything that has an adverse effect on the unit efficiency should be removed.
I saw it years ago when we first had to bring women into heavy industry. The women individually were OK. It was the mixing of sexes on crews. Some men are conditioned to be helpful to women and take on part of their work load. Some men are just sexually aggressive, some aren’t, jealousy enters the picture, she is more attracted to one, many, many factors surface, and the mission suffers.
Check out the few countries that allow mixed front line units, like the Dutch, and you will find they are worthless as fighting units.
What a truly shameful day when we hide behind our women instead of protect them.
We are in the down fall that’s for sure.
From what I understand, he is not “free to lift the ban on women”. It’s supposed to go through congress.
A friend, former Marine, and I just had this conversation over coffee.
It came up - would you rather have a woman in excellent shape or a raging queer worried about his hair doing the job.
We like the woman, given that choice.
This has a lot more to do with the left recruiting for the purpose of increasing numbers *in uniform* who will follow the dictates of Obama’s regime and the getting-to-be-fanatical dogma of his palace media.
For every woman who dares, and is motivated, to defend our Bill of Rights, Obama will try to defeat her by recruiting 2 or more women who can be led and ordered to fight against that woman.
Obama will claim, that if you are against women being in combat, then you are making war on women.
Obama will claim, that if you are against women being in combat, then your argument that women have the right to keep and bear Arms is “irrelevant,” as the left is so fond of saying.
Practically every move by Obama, is a courtroom parlor trick intended to sow the seeds of doubt among the jurors.
Obama does not believe that women should be in combat; rather, he believes the statistics from surveys conducted by the teams who gave him and the left, pre-election feedback, that allowed him/the left to sow doubt while also maintaining the turnout of women for Obama.
It is *all* about being *for Obama* and particularly, women being made to fear being without Obama, without NPR, without PBS.
At some point, Obama will have his palace media claiming that “Men want to take away your cell phones!”
Obama is going to increase the “rights” that women have *under Obama’s nationalizing socialism* and pose the Bill of Rights as a threat to them.
He’s out to buy souls, and he’s not paying for it.
As I said before, they should legislate no more boys/girls teams in any sports - from HS to Olympics. No more NWBA - from now on they play with the NBA.
As long as they don’t lower the standards in ANY way, then I say if a woman can do they job and wants to do the job, then let her.
Other than that — this is a great idea!
The military could hire Amazon women for the job!
None of it matters anymore. This has been going on for 40 years or more and there are plenty of women in combat and who have died.
The problem has always been whether or not women were on the same plain as men. Men don’t have any choice in their assignment and women should not either. Draft registration for all. If you are assigned to a combat unit as a woman then you have no choice. If you are on a pending, or current deployment or assignment and you become pregnant then that is malingering. Whatever the conditions in the area of deployment, you get no special consideration. If you are assigned to combat arms and you cannot meet the physical requirements of the men then you are out or receive the same treatment as a man who cannot meet the requirements.
I don’t believe that any of this is truly practical, even currently. The women do receive special considerations that men do not and that does hurt unit cohesion and morale.
It all should be completely gender neutral, no exceptions, no diminishing of standards.
I experienced it when women entered the Fire Department.
Some of them try really hard, but -—————
Their injury rate is much higher. There are tools they cannot use for lack of physical strength, the jaws of life arent feathers.Starting gas powered tools is tough on them.Waking up stairs with 35 lbs of protective clothing and 50 lbs of Firefighting gear is not for the weaker set.
Then we have the pregnancy thing where they have to get placed on light duty, and then dissappear when the baby is born for a length of time.They come back out of shape and more useless than before.
The officers in charge of them are asked how the women are making out, and they all say, they are great. What else can they say if they ever want a promotion? They aren’t idiots, they know the system.
Progressives see the military as the employer of last resort, and a nice social theory testing area. And that’s it.
They don’t care about the effect women will have on large scale ground combat because they don’t ever intend to get in one. Obama’s drone warfare with the occasional SOF raid is the most progressives are going to want out of the military, and the rest is merely a make-work program with a nominal function. A post-office-writ-large.
The idea is to raise the standards downward until everyone can meet it, and nobody’s feelings are hurt. The idea of the military as a whetstone for competition and victory is utterly abhorrent to them, but the idea of letting everyone get paid a nice government salary to wear a uniform and look busy is pretty much nirvana.
One very critical, but neglected reason, to not put women in combat is that many males are biologically designed to protect women as a priority. When they see women at risk, even in a movie, they get a powerful instinctual and physiological response. For many men it is overwhelming. They cannot do other things until the female is in a more acceptable condition of safety. They will even sacrifice their own lives.
And not coincidentally, those men are often the very best combat soldiers. They cannot be disciplined or trained to not react this way, for the two things go together.
And just one of these men in combat is worth 50 ordinary men or women. While an ordinary man might have no problem at all in sending women out to draw fire, he would likewise be mediocre to poor as a combat soldier, no matter his training or level of physical fitness.
One of the great illusions of modern armies is that ordinary men can be made into capable warriors. But this is belied by combat support and combat service support outnumbering combat soldiers by 15 to 1 or more. That is, they work fine as combat “multipliers”, but actual combat is up to warriors.
The flip side to this is PTSD. Warrior type men have much higher resistance to it than do ordinary men. A few are even impervious to it. But ordinary men can be subdivided into blocs in which some will experience PTSD with minimal stress or even the threat of stress; some will take a typical amount of stress before they start experiencing it; some will be able to handle it somewhat longer, with longer or shorter recovery; and a minority will take a long time to get it, and recover on their own much faster.
So add this all up.
By putting women in combat, you will either render ineffective or kill your best and most capable soldiers, and those least likely to experience PTSD. And while leftists absolutely do not care about this, or are even in favor of a much less capable military, mission accomplishment will also become a thing of the past.
But leftists do not care. They do not care if casualties and killed among our military are ten times or more what they are today. They do not care. They want what they want, and reality and common sense and human suffering be damned.
What’s incredible is that those who would prefer to keep women from being maimed on the front lines are portrayed as anti-woman by the left.