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The Voters Who Stayed Home (The Key to Understanding the Results of the 2012 Elections)
National Review ^ | 11/10/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: snarkytart

I think the problem is that the majority of Americans are so economically STUPID that it is impossible to win their vote promising fiscal management. People who carry 20K+ in credit card debt aren’t going to vote on cutting the deficit, nor will they ever understand how cutting taxes can result in reduced deficits. They are stupid in their private life, so why should we expect intelligence in their public life?


101 posted on 11/10/2012 7:00:24 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: BlatherNaut

And they will lose and continue to lose.

We heard that last time - and look at the result of going moderate? A loss.

We need to go conservative not moderate. We need to tell the moderates that they need to either fish or cut bait -> You either support the conservatives AS NOMINATED, or go to the Dems. Some will leave, which is inevitable.


102 posted on 11/10/2012 7:00:46 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Soul of the South

I know a number of people who say “they are all the same,it doesn’t matter who you vote for,nothing will change” DESPITE the vast changes that have occurred !

And I am unable to reason with these people;their minds are totally closed to argument,it is all about “feelings”.

Some are actually PROUD of not voting!

Don’t say “why associate with them?” I have to work with them every day.


103 posted on 11/10/2012 7:01:43 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

As was said earlier - you want my vote too, nominate a Conservative.

Why don’t you turn to your blessed independents since you don’t want or need us.


104 posted on 11/10/2012 7:02:20 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: what's up

You and I reached the same conclusion - that JRandom is no better than an infantile liberal with an entitlement mentality. I referred him to some liberal websites where his kind of low information low IQ type will be more at home.


105 posted on 11/10/2012 7:02:43 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Consultant Class Have Destroyed America")
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To: duffee

Attacking the voters you fail to win over is no recipe for success.

Recognize that you failed to win over enough votes. It’s not the voters’s fault, it’s the candidate and the party.

Until this lightbulb goes off, Republicans will continue to try to browbeat their way into office. It doesn’t work.

Sell something people will buy. It’s not rocket science.

The wild rollercoaster of a primary season was the result of a very significant group who just did not want Romney. They just didn’t want him. Two thirds of primary voters.

Does this say something? The voters are wrong is the message that the party got, and they’re sticking to it. Stupid.

I didn’t want Romney, didn’t think he was a great candidate but he was all there was as far as any hope of unseating Obama. So, I voted for him.

Others didn’t and I understand why.

Support a candidate who does not offend such a wide swath of potential voters next time.


106 posted on 11/10/2012 7:02:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: duffee
Except they didn't stay home. The author's main premise of a stay at home electorate is simply not true for Romney voters. See my post #65.

Romney will exceed McCain's 60M and end up pretty close to Bush's 62M in 2004.

107 posted on 11/10/2012 7:03:11 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
he needed the Bible Belt to win.

Romney won the states in the Bible Belt.

Evangelicals voted majority Romney except for the idiots. These idiots consider it superior to have a partial birth abortion president than a president who made some pro-choice comments years ago.

These people ensure that more babies will now die and that the abortion pill becomes mandatory for insurance companies. Are they fools? Why, of course.

108 posted on 11/10/2012 7:04:09 AM PST by what's up
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Do you support abortion?


109 posted on 11/10/2012 7:04:23 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I will vote for a candidate that is and has a PROVEN track record of being conservative.

To do that, the candidate must have PROVEN record of being anti-abortion, pro-2A, against socialized medicine, and must have reduced government somewhere along the way.

I've been here on FR a decade longer than you, and seen elections and presidents come and go.

You will get over it. Whether you learn to be conservative is another question.

/johnny

110 posted on 11/10/2012 7:05:16 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JCBreckenridge
So we lost because we didn’t set the pander dial to 11?

Getting 60% of the white vote might have worked for George H.W. Bush in '88 but it sure as hell didn't work for Mitt Romney. In case you haven't noticed, this country is a lot more brown than it used to be. Appealing to white males over 30 --and nobody else-- just doesn't cut it anymore.

Really a moot point. Republicans have lost the Hispanic vote for a generation. Unless the GOP does a top to bottom rebranding, we won't be winning any national elections for quite some time.

111 posted on 11/10/2012 7:05:19 AM PST by Drew68
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“First, he didn’t “invent” Obama Care - but there’s not talking to you about that, so I’ll use an anology.”

You start right off with Bull$hit when you say that. He invented it at the state level and Bronco Bamma moved it to the big time.

Primary voters that thought the idiot could sucessfully argue for repeal of Obamacare are simple minded.

I voted for the stupid bastard last Tues, but don’t start spewing your BS that the candidate wasn’t the problem.


112 posted on 11/10/2012 7:06:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: JCBreckenridge
If you did not vote against Obama you helped the candidate with the most extreme abortion position possible to continue in power.

You also aided him in allowing the morning after pill to become mandatory for ALL religious organizations. Congrats.

113 posted on 11/10/2012 7:08:12 AM PST by what's up
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To: Soul of the South

Great points and I’m of the belief as you are that race was a factor too. Many guilt-ridden white voters still supported the president despite the bad economy. The Republicans in congress are not aggressive enough in promoting their agenda and how much of that is their fear of being called racist by the media for opposing the president? Bottom line is that this country is in for a rough four years.


114 posted on 11/10/2012 7:08:32 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: JCBreckenridge

The most elaborate high tech microscope could not locate your IQ under the best lighting conditions. The assumption that those of us who voted against Obama last week are all part of some cabal that “owns” the candidate choice is such an absurd assumption that it can only be made by a spoiled infantile brat who understands nothing about how a Republic is governed.

Thus, I cannot answer your questions because the premise behind them is so flawed as to make conversation with you meaningless. And for the record, look at the title of my upcoming book in the signature tagline box:


115 posted on 11/10/2012 7:09:43 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; JRandomFreeper
that JRandom is no better than an infantile liberal with an entitlement mentality

Sure seems that way.

All this blather about us on FR having to "earn his vote". LOL.

For some reason he and those like him think they're entitled...just like the inner city losers.

116 posted on 11/10/2012 7:12:25 AM PST by what's up
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To: Beagle8U

I never said the candidate was not the problem. But the candidate is not on this forum this morning. And the candidate is only part of the problem.

The other part of the problem are idiot voters who sat home. If that’s not you, then quit going out of your way to be offended. That’s what liberals do.

I fought, in an official capacity, to keep Mitt from the nomination. I lost that fight. Thus, I did what adults do. That is to assess the situation, and move on with the best available option. It sounds like you did too. My ire is not directed at you.


117 posted on 11/10/2012 7:12:28 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: what's up

Romney supports both of these positions. I supported the only candidate who did not support abortion.

I am only responsible for myself, not for whom other people choose to support. You want to support the architect of Romneycare - go ahead.


119 posted on 11/10/2012 7:19:06 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
All the berating me about not voting for Romney is like water to a duck. I don't hear you.

Actually, you voted for Obama.

A lot of us couldn't pull the lever for Romney, but made damn sure we pulled it against Obama. You couldn't even muster enough courage to do that.

120 posted on 11/10/2012 7:19:06 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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