Posted on 10/28/2012 10:49:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Don’t worry. Kasich will be all over it own quiet, competent way.
Moreover, we own the Sec of State seat for this election. In Ohio the SecState runs elections.
We also own the supreme court, the senate, and the house.
Thanks...good to know.
Fraud is always a concern. But the fact that OH, PA, WI, VA, FL, IA, and NV have Republican governors betters the chances of fairness and enforcement.
I see Romney winning seven of those eight states.
The Romney ground game in Ohio is much stronger than with McCain 2008. Partly that’s due to Romney’s organizing experience, plus him keeping what he built in 2008, and partly that’s Tea Party and regular Republicans realizing what Obama is really all about.
Early evidence is that a lot more Republicans are voting early this year compared to 2008. Reports also indicate Obama volunteers in Ohio are a lot less active than in 2008, where my door was knocked on by at least 4 Obama volunteers - and zero contact from McCain aside from a general Republican mailer a week before the election. Many Obama 2008 volunteers are disappointed in Obama continuing to have troops in Afghanistan, plus no jobs/student loans doesn’t help. Most 20 somethings don’t really want to live with mom and dad.
I see Romney winning:
Colorado (9)
perhaps Iowa (6) and maybe
New Hampshire (4)
Completely out of reach (pipe dream country) are:
Pennsylvania (20)
Michigan (16)
Wisconsin (10)
That leaves:
Ohio (18)
and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.
If it were a tie, the RATs would make Obama VP - he would then preside over the Senate as well. He will no go willingly ...
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
When Kasich was a Congressman he had a lot of face time on TV. After becoming gov of OH we seldom see him on TV.
It's nothing to be "tacky" about txrangerette!
I remember him from years past, as well. OK!
This has been a good thread for me because I have learned a lot about Ohio politics.
However, I am really dumbfounded about the invisible Kasich at the national level, considering he was a GOP star during the 90s, and was more or less a national spokesperson for the party much of that time between 94-2000.
Despite whatever is happening in Ohio and his popularity, it seems that he should be out there nationally as a Ohio face supporting the ticket.
I doubt that many people in the country even know that Ohio is a major GOP controlled state now.
By listening to the national media, you’d think Ohio is dark blue controlled by liberals, and it would be a miracle for Romney to win it.
Being familiar with Congressman Kasich but not very familiar with OH politics, I was surprised how tight Kasich’s race for gov was. It was very close, IIRC. He was one of my favorite Congressmen and I do miss seeing him but I have seen him on TV at RR campaign rallies.
of course I'm just kidding, but Palin and ODonnell have been treated horribly...no question about that....
about what Kasich said....I don't think he would come out and say this if he didn't have actual solid info on its truth....
Florida had Jeb Bush in as gov when the hanging chad scandal took place....we didn’t know who was our president until December!
Yeah Manbearpig should have gone to jail for that shenanigan.
Just exactly what did you mean by that? < /s >
Thanks - learn something every day ..
and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.
The auto assembly industry in Ohio has a bit less than 25,000 employees. GM & Chrysler, the recipients of government money and government bailouts, employ about half of those employees.
So, we're talking about 13,000 or so employees out of a state with 8.3 million registered voters.
Honda and Ford, also auto industry, were not aided by a government bailout and rewarded with government ownership. Ford is actually proud that they made it on their own, and Honda in Ohio is self-directed, meaning it is famous for being nonunion. I don't know how Honda workers feel about the government bailing out huge union pensions for rival companies. I'm guessing they're not impressed.
Put it perspective, only about 18% of Ohio's gross state product is generated by manufacturing as a whole, and the auto industry is just one piece of that industry.
As always, agriculture is probably still the largest industry in Ohio producing 93 billion in goods versus auto industry's 16 billion.
Most people are surprised by that, but Ohio's climate and geography make it ideal for most major cash crops from corn/wheat/beans all the way to tomatoes.
So, do GM and Chrysler trump the coal and power generation industries in Ohio? Between miners and employees at coal powered energy plants, there are approximately 8,000 workers. In short, there aren't as many.
One distinction, though, is that they generally are the major industries in the counties in which they operate. Their loss has a huge impact on an entire county/region whereas auto jobs lost are generally in metro areas where the impact gets spread around a bit more and absorbed a bit more easily.
This means that Obama is turning entire rural counties against him and pushing a historically conservative rural vote to its maximum. 70-80% pro-Romney votes in some counties are not hard to imagine, and while they are less in number, they tend to offset areas where the vote hovers in the 50-50 vicinity.
With Rasmussen saying Ohio is now tied, and Rasmussen being the most unbiased of pollsters, and with the dynamics in Ohio, and with the election being controlled by Republicans this year, I will predict a Romney win in Ohio.
Finally, the polls are tied in Ohio if one uses recent polls. If one relies on the realclear average, then he is adding in weeks old polls and averaging them. That gives a faulty impression that even the pollsters themselves all disagree with. Otherwise, they wouldn't conduct CURRENT polls to determine where people are at in the NOW.
PERKALONG WROTE: Ohio (18) and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.
XZINS REPLIED: The auto assembly industry in Ohio has a bit less than 25,000 employees. GM & Chrysler, the recipients of government money and government bailouts, employ about half of those employees.
So, we're talking about 13,000 or so employees out of a state with 8.3 million registered voters.
Honda and Ford, also auto industry, were not aided by a government bailout and rewarded with government ownership. Ford is actually proud that they made it on their own, and Honda in Ohio is self-directed, meaning it is famous for being nonunion. I don't know how Honda workers feel about the government bailing out huge union pensions for rival companies. I'm guessing they're not impressed.
Put it perspective, only about 18% of Ohio's gross state product is generated by manufacturing as a whole, and the auto industry is just one piece of that industry.
As always, agriculture is probably still the largest industry in Ohio producing 93 billion in goods versus auto industry's 16 billion.
Most people are surprised by that, but Ohio's climate and geography make it ideal for most major cash crops from corn/wheat/beans all the way to tomatoes.
So, do GM and Chrysler trump the coal and power generation industries in Ohio? Between miners and employees at coal powered energy plants, there are approximately 8,000 workers. In short, there aren't as many.
One distinction, though, is that they generally are the major industries in the counties in which they operate. Their loss has a huge impact on an entire county/region whereas auto jobs lost are generally in metro areas where the impact gets spread around a bit more and absorbed a bit more easily.
This means that Obama is turning entire rural counties against him and pushing a historically conservative rural vote to its maximum. 70-80% pro-Romney votes in some counties are not hard to imagine, and while they are less in number, they tend to offset areas where the vote hovers in the 50-50 vicinity.
With Rasmussen saying Ohio is now tied, and Rasmussen being the most unbiased of pollsters, and with the dynamics in Ohio, and with the election being controlled by Republicans this year, I will predict a Romney win in Ohio.
Finally, the polls are tied in Ohio if one uses recent polls. If one relies on the realclear average, then he is adding in weeks old polls and averaging them. That gives a faulty impression that even the pollsters themselves all disagree with. Otherwise, they wouldn't conduct CURRENT polls to determine where people are at in the NOW.
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