I have a box of fireworks I've been sitting on for years. If the fire danger is low I just might light 'em up!
If the American people choose to support this lawlessness then this is going up.
Posted on 10/26/2012 10:19:39 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
Thanks a TON cyberaxe!
AC, click the link at post #192. You won't be disappointed!
What you say in Post 69 is certainly plausible, but if it were the case why not just say so? It’s not like it would be the admission of classified information.
They must have these in Italy or Spain??? two hours away??
LOL... I think on election night that many people will be lifting up a well deserved toast when Romney is declared ( Hopefully and God willing ) the winner.
So the WH is filled with the highest level military officials, professional CIA, Pentagon officials and the administration as they watch this terror attack.
They have the latest technology at their fingertips and access to a variety of military options to save these American lives. AND THEY DO NOTHING? Except spin lies. NO ONE STEPPED UP.
Get these people out NOW. We can’t wait. They are dangerous. They are saying to the terrorists: do what you want. The US will do nothing to stop you.
I doubt they had an AC-130 prepped and loaded on a carrier at the time. I don’t think its something they normally do.
we KNOW the drones were there I am thinking they had Hellfires and could have fired on the enemy if allowed, maybe thats why the laser was being used on the roof
Yes, that’s true.. but if the mission calls for it then it’s a possibility that they can launch from a carrier.
IF ? it was me and I was in command ? I would not take the risk that one of those Hellfire missiles would go astray and miss it’s target and hit the Embassy and risk the lives inside.
A Hellfire missile carried by drones is a precision weapon, it will hit what the laser aimed at. The mortar team was likely far enough away to avoid hurting those in the embassy. Mortars aren’t close up weapons like a gun.
Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
At that point,
they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.Watch "Special Report Investigates: Benghazi -- New Revelations" on Fox News at 1 p.m. ET on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.
A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.
According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.
"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.
Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.
Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.
A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.
The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.
I have a box of fireworks I've been sitting on for years. If the fire danger is low I just might light 'em up!
If the American people choose to support this lawlessness then this is going up.
There were no carrier groups in the Mediterranean at the time.
Don’t forget that Obama is still president for 2 more months. What will he do during that time?
Nothing good.
Reminds me of a fairly well known bit of military history. One side was under serious attack, but had strong reserves nearby which might push the invaders back into the ocean. Those reserves were under sole control of their commander-in-chief. However nobody dared wake him to active the reserves, nor even to inform him there was an invasion. So D-Day succeeded.
The fight lasted some 6 hours. Plenty of time to get heavy aircraft overhead in time and on target.
OBAMA: RESIGN NOW.
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