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U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s
market watch ^ | June 8, 2012, | Rex Nutting

Posted on 09/30/2012 1:40:43 PM PDT by sopwith

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To: Stirner

To the extent we are deleveraging, it results from debts being defaulted on. The savings rate went up in 2008 and 2009, but is back down to almost nothing.
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CORRECT... Income is down about 9% for the middle class , expenses are up , savings are non-existant for the vast majority , people are moving down , very few are able to fight the tide anymore... we have approx 10 million people not paying their mortgages because they’re broke... 10M multiplied by $1,500/month means we artificially have $15Billion in everyday spending on groceries , clothes and gas that we wouldn’t otherwise have ...

Obamacare is coming ,,, tax increases are coming ... we’re printing money and printing money and printing even more money ... if you can borrow do so now and borrow every last penny ... if the entity you borrowed it from exists 5 years from now pay it back with funny money Obamabucks...


41 posted on 09/30/2012 3:33:39 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: sopwith
Private debt may be declining (does it include student loan debt?) but note that incomes are declining also over the last years. With less money being earned, of course people can carry less debt


42 posted on 09/30/2012 3:46:15 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
That's a scary chart (Median Household Income). While incomes fall, expenses like gas, food, health care and education continue to skyrocket. The middle class is getting squeezed out of existence. One one side you have the growing poor who are wards of the gub'mint or you are rich and able to escape if things get too bad.

Heard that Steve Wozniak was taking his billion dollars to Australia. There are going to be a lot of millionaire ex-pats if this crap keeps up.

43 posted on 09/30/2012 3:53:07 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think the article is about personal debt hence people not consuming as much is slowing the economy.

But still.. if your currency is going to the pot what is the good news about personal savings?


44 posted on 09/30/2012 3:53:10 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: SamAdams76
Don't worry, they'll be plenty more milionaires, billionaires and even trillionairs
to their place.


45 posted on 09/30/2012 4:04:44 PM PDT by Errant
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To: sopwith; All

This Nutting guy is a real nut. Another article of his:

Obama spending binge never happened
Rex NuttingCommentary: Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950s

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor


46 posted on 09/30/2012 4:14:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Clearly.


47 posted on 09/30/2012 4:17:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“However, with the coming massive inflation, you want as much debt as you can service reliably”

I live my life just the opposite!!!

Everything I have ever bought in my life has been for cash except for my first home that has been free and clear for 25 years.


48 posted on 09/30/2012 4:22:01 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sopwith.
...it's very hard for any economy to grow when everyone is focused on increasing their savings.
...on increasing their savings before the Obama Tax Increase hits in 2013.


49 posted on 09/30/2012 4:47:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Stirner

The savings rate went up in 2008 and 2009, but is back down to almost nothing.”

I don’t know about everybody else but in spite of eliminating debt, because of increased cost in taxes, gasoline, food, medical care, insurance and other necessities, there is very little left over to save.


50 posted on 09/30/2012 4:59:21 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: sopwith
This sounds fishy need some input.

It's predictable, just like the falling unemployment rate and the soaring housing market. The closer to November we get, the better things are going to be.......

51 posted on 09/30/2012 5:02:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: RichardW
He is not talking about the government/national debt -- he is talking about private debt. The main reason that Bernanke's printing money has not had much effect on the macroeconomy is that de-leveraging in the private sector has removed more money than he has been adding.

But when that de-leveraging stops.....

52 posted on 09/30/2012 5:30:48 PM PDT by expat2
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To: sopwith

Yea!sure it is.Thats why the FED is Buying 68 Billion dollars in Phoney U.S. Bonds for the nex 12 months.


53 posted on 09/30/2012 5:33:07 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: sopwith
Leaving aside the fact that you posted an article from 3 months ago, he lies (well, maybe not lies but sure distorts the truth).

From the article:

From the OMB:

Look at the caption on the article's graphic (top). It says, "Total domestic — public and private — debt as a share of the economy has declined for 12 quarters in a row after surging over the previous decade. "

The only thing that explains matters is that private debt is shrinking rapidly.

54 posted on 09/30/2012 5:41:49 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: sopwith

Shouldn’t there be a “barf alert” here?

Just asking.


55 posted on 09/30/2012 5:43:18 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Or a “This is Bullshit” warning.


56 posted on 09/30/2012 5:48:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: sopwith

This guy must be on crack.


57 posted on 09/30/2012 8:55:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sopwith

BS


58 posted on 10/01/2012 9:08:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: markomalley

I know it was an old article. A friend of mine put it on FB.
My best reply was F R input.


59 posted on 10/01/2012 4:01:21 PM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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