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1 posted on 09/24/2012 7:15:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
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No one is forcing people into these units (yet). If I were single in a city, I’d consider it - relative to having roommates. It’s just a different lifestyle.

I think the idea of forcing units to be a minimum size goes against basic property rights, in my opinion.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 7:55:04 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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Proponents say the smaller apartments would provide a cheaper option for the city's many single residents, who have been priced out of the rental market as the region experiences a resurgent technology industry.

Glorified barracks housing for servant help.

28 posted on 09/24/2012 7:55:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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Oh for cryin out loud!!! my kitchen is bigger than that !!!!


31 posted on 09/24/2012 7:59:04 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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None of their business. If someone wants to rent 100 sq ft, and someone will lease it, let ‘em. There’s rather an active community of “tiny home” afficianados. If you’re not one, respect that others are.


36 posted on 09/24/2012 8:05:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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You could take a crap, cook supper, and do laundry all without getting off the toilet.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 8:06:14 PM PDT by Husker24
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I recently read an article similar to this. For New York City.

Is this part of Agenda 21? Seems like it would fit.


43 posted on 09/24/2012 8:24:13 PM PDT by upchuck (If nobama is reelected and gets to choose more SCOTUS judges, this country is finished.)
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300 square feet? Sheesh, a veritable palace. San Fran has a long way to go to catch up to Tokyo...


44 posted on 09/24/2012 8:30:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Movin on up, to the eastside!


46 posted on 09/24/2012 8:42:26 PM PDT by FishinTX (Barak Obama HATES you.)
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Had a friend who.lived in a place like that in Sunnyvale.


49 posted on 09/24/2012 8:49:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Why not sell people campers which are about that size and more ingenious with the usage of space? Pluse they can easily move to where jobs are plentiful

These tiny apartments are not much different than in the old days people living in boarding houses or domitories. This was a living arrangement for people just getting started out in life where they could have a decent roof over their heads for a small cost while they worked to move up to better more spacious housing housing.

Boarding houses were a good free market solution to a housing problem that zoning made ILLEGAL.


51 posted on 09/24/2012 9:10:06 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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Idea: Convert ISO shipping containers into modular apartments (it has been done for both living accommodations and offices). These containers are strong and standardized. The are meant to be stacked and have built-in lifting eyes.

Containers come in standard lengths of 20’, 40’, 48’, and 53’. Widths are 8’. Heights are 8’ (standard), 8.5’ (high cube), and 9.5’ (high cube). Using either the 48’x8’ or 53’x8' containers, one can have a 384 sq. ft. or 424 sq. ft. living area. If the 9.5’ high containers are used, this comes to 3,648 cu. ft. or 4,028 cu. ft. respectively.

Decommissioned containers are readily available and have been accumulating in many port facilities. Average cost of a decommissioned container is $5,000-$7,000. Containers can be trucked to a site, converted to an apartment with all amenities and conveniences added, then trucked to a build site where they are assembled into a very strong and secure apartment block.

53 posted on 09/24/2012 9:17:17 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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S.F.s next space saving plan. Graves 4’ wide 7’ long and 2500’ deep.

Rack ‘em and stack ‘em.

Save bunches of room.


55 posted on 09/24/2012 9:32:18 PM PDT by Holly_P
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Too many rats in small spaces is disaster waiting to happen. I believe they know this and are just hoping violence starts so they can start clamping down.


56 posted on 09/24/2012 9:59:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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A few years back I paid a visit to a client in San Francisco. He told me that he had an opening for an entry level lab tech that had gone unfilled for years, The reason? No one could afford to live in the city on the salary that the position paid; and there simply wasn’t enough money in his budget to pay more.


61 posted on 09/24/2012 10:52:20 PM PDT by Redcloak (A founding member of Drunkards for Romney)
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my tokyo studio is shy of 220 spartan sq. ft. I chose it willingly.


62 posted on 09/25/2012 3:27:01 AM PDT by lucid discourse (got an uncontrollable urge. I got to scream and shout it.)
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For a right-wing extremist web site (which is why it’s my favorite), this is one of the DUMBEST set of comments I have yet to see (other than the ones, the past, that supported Governor Perry and his toll road and Gardasil sell-outs).

First - if people think $1700 a month is too much for San Francisco, THEN FINE, don’t live there. But the fact is that there are A LOT of people in San Francisco and HUGE NUMBER of people in New York City that have that kind of money, particularly if they own a car. For you others that want to get your $1700 worth - as someone else pointed out, go rent a house in Stockton (as mentioned in one of the comments), and then deal with the 2 or 3 hour commute to San Fran. But understand that not everyone enjoys that lifestyle.

Second - there is NO LAW requiring the owners to charge $1700 a month. If you think it’s too high, THEN FINE, don’t live there. But there may be others that think it’s a decent deal, especially if they don’t have to deal with roommates bring in whores at all hours of the night.

Third - Now for some Capitalism 101. But if $1700 is too high, guess what, THE PRICE WILL DROP. And if the owners make a huge killing at $1700, also guess what, OTHERS WILL JOIN THEM and increase supply, and the price will again drop (or at least not rise as fast). One other comment - if you don’t like the price, THEN FINE, don’t live there.

Forth - Guess what happens now in New York City for someone wanting to pay $1700 in rent - they have to SHARE (larger) apartments. Yes, they get their own room (for that much money), but they still have to share a crappy bathroom and kitchen, probably with someone that carries half a dozen diseases (this is New York, by the way).

Dammit, this is a FREE(ish) country - they’re not using our tax money (as far as I know to build these damn things), let them try it out and see what happens.


64 posted on 09/25/2012 4:05:58 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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