Posted on 08/24/2012 1:51:54 AM PDT by marthemaria
What’s next, The Comfy Chair and Soft Pillows?
He is not anti-Muslim, Nazis and Muslims are natural allies.
I read an interesting (fictional) analogy to this:
During the administration of president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the leaders of the Democrat party decided that their party needed a “youth league”, for the same reason that the Nazi party in Germany created its Hitler Jugend, and five years later, the socialist/communist leagues of other countries in Europe created their own youth leagues, such as the Workers’ Youth League in Norway.
This purpose being to raise an ideologically pure next generation of leaders, to continue to push their nation in the direction of the party, be it the philosophy of fascism, or the the philosophy of socialist/communism.
In the case of FDR’s Democrat party, they wanted to push America in the direction of a blend of socialism and national socialism, so their youth league became expert in indoctrinating its members to become the ideologically pure next generation of American leaders.
The Democrat party, in its semi-alliance with the Socialist International, a group of liberal and left wing political parties around the world, shared many of their ideological axioms and goals, such as:
1) Nations have no real reason to exist, and should eventually become just districts of multinational economic blocs, under a unified world government.
2) Heterogeneous cultures, ethnic groups, languages and national history stand in the way of this, so should be undermined until they cease to exist.
3) Political parties and philosophies in opposition to these ideas must either be changed to agree with the ideas of the Socialist International, or must be marginalized.
4) There is tremendous resistance to these ideas by the masses, so gradualism must be used to overcome this resistance, starting with control of education and the indoctrination of children.
In any event, continuing with this *fictional* account, the Democrat party of the United States decided that multiculturalism should replace national pride, ethnic and cultural and religious heterogeneity, to the point where America was no longer substantially different from other nations.
A way to do this was to permit open immigration, legal and illegal, to anyone who wanted it, the more alien to America, its people, culture and religion, the better. And such immigrants would be told that their immigration was only allowed if they were to support the Democrat party.
And so it was done. Countless millions of immigrants from central and South America, Africa, Asia and elsewhere were encouraged to flood into America. And it was coldly calculated that at a particular point, European descended Americans would become a minority, and with the support of the immigrants, America would in effect become a one-party state.
This being the Democrat party, whose youth league would insure that it retained its ideological purity in the face of any setbacks or appeals to reason.
But one man, let us call him “John Brown”, after the great anti-slavery fighter, decided he would no longer allow his country to be destroyed. So he decided to hit the Democrat party in its weak spot, its youth league, its next generation of ideologically pure fanatics that sought to destroy his country, his people, and his religious faith.
He could not stop the Democrats, but he could inhibit them, giving his nation to heal and recover from the continual destructive onslaughts of people who wished to destroy it.
(A fictional account.)
Somehow, I still don't care.
I got this plan if my retirement money runs out...............
"Yeah, but they all wanted to kill you. Should he have let them slaughter you? Gain enough power that by the time people wake up, it's too late. That is their end game. You are either subservient to them, or you die."
Some folks are really damn myopic about what is going on in every Western Nation... Right now. Even our own.
"Violence never solves anything..."
Tell that to King George, Adolf Hitler, and Saddam Hussein. Not a single one of which were "voted out of office" or had a "magic lawsuit" role back their evil.
This is not justice.
77 murdered = 21 years in prison, maybe 10 served and he’s free to go?
He may be sane. The Norwegian courts are insane.
That is a very good question.
Breivik is 33, so by my calculation his sentence will conclude when he is 54 and rusty.
Yes, I know how that sounds in light of my other posts above...
Just because fire fought fire doesn't mean that you shouldn't still put the fire out...
It seems to me he was pro, not anti......
Nope. In his screed, he calls out militant Islam as an enemy, but that he would considerin working with terrorist cells to achieve his own ends.
“Enemy of my enemy” type stuff.
Short sighted as it never works out well in the end. Parable of riding a tiger comes to mind... It may get you where you are going and the ride may be without compare, but you can never dismount or it will eat you.
Don’t think so.
Here’s a rundown of his views.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Breivik#Religious_and_political_views
Anti-EU and UN
Anti- US attacks on Serbia
Strongly pro-Zionist
Anti-Muslim, wants them all deported
Strongly “cultural Christian,” though not particularly religious
None of his reported political opinions, as opposed to actions, are a bit out of place here on FR, adjusting as needed for US/Norway. Which is not an attempt to smear FR, just a reporting of the fact.
Old John Brown was an abolitionist. He took his abolitionism to its logical conclusion of a violent (though ineffectual) attack on the slave power.
Scott Philip Roeder was anti-abortion. He took his opposition to its logical conclusion of shooting an abortion doctor. If you really believe that abortion is murder, is not the killing of an abortionist not justifiable homicide?
Most people who hold strong anti-slavery, anti-abortion or anti-Muslim views do not carry them to this extreme. But I used the “logical conclusion” structure above to make a point.
If you run around loudly denouncing slavery, or abortion or Islam as being ultimate evils (which IMO at least two of the three are), then you are, IMO, morally obligated to also point out why violence against these practices or institutions is not justified, if you indeed believe it is not.
IOW, you need to logically point out why a violent response is NOT the “logical conclusion” of your rhetoric.
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