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If BHO is reelected, Time for Texas to Secede (Vanity)
July 7, 2012 | no dems

Posted on 07/07/2012 10:55:47 AM PDT by no dems

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To: Melas
Just curious as well, using your definition, would a child with an unknown father be eligible to president?

Odd that you asked since we already have one. Without medical testing few people know for sure who their biological father is, especially in the promiscuous society we have today.

161 posted on 07/07/2012 1:38:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (The Political Elites are the modern Royals, and the king shall have his due.)
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To: X-spurt

Right, got carried away, 500,000 was what I was aiming for:)I stand corrected on that part but stand by the rest of my rant:)


162 posted on 07/07/2012 1:40:41 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Melas

Louisiana isn’t allowed to make a single penny from the state’s oil reserves. It is forced to be a socialist state, when it should be one of the wealthiest in the nation.


163 posted on 07/07/2012 1:41:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Celtic Cross

Need to quit Borgartin that joint my friend.

Loving “war games” means you would not love the real thing?

So you, in some self claiming Viking “gamer” mentality, think it’ll be Texas against the world? Guess you don’t read FR much. On a more level-headed hand, I suspect if it ever came to secession, the only States not seceding would be the liberal coasts and a few other handout states, who within 2 years would be begging the new USA to save their butts, economically and literally.

I personally don’t think Texas would actually leave our beloved America, because it will never be made necessary, but never say NEVER. Even nobama will never push that far, the key to remember is that the liberals and their holder’s people co-hearts do not value your and my life so much, but they damn sure value their own. Second thing to consider why secession will not become necessary, is that liberalism is more an acedemic rather than real world exercise.


164 posted on 07/07/2012 1:42:25 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Hulka

That link was in the congressional resolution offering entry to Union to Texas. I have no idea what the Texas Constition may say on the issue.

There’s an interesting story about the TX resolution.

Several attempts were made to admit Texas by a treaty between the US and Texas. They failed because they couldn’t get a 2/3 majority in the Senate.

So they did an end-around by means of an arguably unconstitutional joint resolution of Congress, which required only a simple majority in each house. The Constitution of course has no provision for a treaty-by-another-name to be pushed through by means of a resolution.


165 posted on 07/07/2012 1:43:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, there’s the answer.

Draw circles around Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin. Austin, as the capital, gets to be the “State of Texas.” Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio are their own new states and can petition the Union for entry.

Everything outside of those four circles is a new state, which refuses to petition the Union for entry. Republic of Texas ... or whatever.


166 posted on 07/07/2012 1:45:34 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: OneWingedShark
Therein lies the problem. You see yourself as an American citizen, giving your allegiance to the federal government instead of your State; this is much like a German/Frenchman/Englishman giving his allegiance to the EU rather than his country.

Not even remotely comparable. My father served in the United States Army in WWII. My brother served in the United States Air Force in Viet Nam. I served in the United States Navy during peacetime. We are or were as the case may be, Americans.

One must emigrate from Germany to France. It's quite a process that involves dissolving prior allegiances and swearing to new ones, with a host of other legalities and responsibilities thrown in just because.

To get from South Carolina to Colorado (as my father did in 1946) required a bus ticket and $50 in his pocket. He never even actually applied for a driver's license until the 50's. Things were much rougher for me moving from Colorado to Texas in the 1990's. Horrors, I had 90 days to get a new driver's license.

It's not 1820 anymore. Currently my immediate family, counting only siblings and children are in Colorado, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Texas. Looking ahead 10 years, only my wife and I plan on residing in the same state. It's a mobile American population, and state citizenship means little. That's just a fact of the 21st century. Love it or hate it, it's a fact.

167 posted on 07/07/2012 1:49:57 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
You couldn’t fly a stealthed sparrow over a USA military installation,

Tell that to God, as I'm sure his sparrows are constantly flying over military installations w/o being noticed.

168 posted on 07/07/2012 1:51:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I have had much the same experience, I am sorry to say. I am usually told to “go back to DU”....to which I have never been.


169 posted on 07/07/2012 1:51:26 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: itsahoot

That made my day just seeing it. Thanks.


170 posted on 07/07/2012 1:53:09 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

When I go somewhere for 3 months, I still consider my self as a citizen of Texas and don’t post Ariz-Cal’s flag. Find it mighty curious, although more inline with the attitude..

Wouldn’t be trying to bullshit a bullshitter now would you?


171 posted on 07/07/2012 1:53:13 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: no dems

Texas seceded once already. It wasn’t allowed


172 posted on 07/07/2012 1:53:45 PM PDT by Figment
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To: no dems

I would argue that in addition to Texas, any State that existed prior to the constitution would have the historical legal groundwork for secession. Once again we would have to face a president who would provoke war amongst his own people.


173 posted on 07/07/2012 1:54:10 PM PDT by Southron77
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To: DallasSun

You heard me!!!!! Discounting secession only enables the entitlement crowd. They love my tax dollars.


174 posted on 07/07/2012 1:57:17 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Texas Fossil

I want no part of talk of secession. I want it all back and the Commie Bastards who are ruining the nation in Jail.
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Good luck. We can’t even get a lying, deceiving, murdering, racist Attorney General out of office.


175 posted on 07/07/2012 1:57:20 PM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: Celtic Cross

You’d be a resident of Texas not automatically a Texan. Being a Texan is a state of mind and position of birth.

I once encountered a FReeper who said he was a former Texan. (Ain’t no such animal.) He lived in California but he was a native-born Texan. I told him he is and always will be a Texan - no matter where he resides. He stopped calling himself a former Texan.

My children promise that no matter where they live, they will ensure that my grandchildren are born on Texas soil.


176 posted on 07/07/2012 1:58:55 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Melas

Well then, move to Chicago.


177 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:27 PM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: Melas
Mel, don't know where you got you figures, but Wyoming may have the 48th ranking in number of citizens, but you obviously have not seen the coal trains lined up 5 abreast going and coming day and night 365 to make the claim it may be out produced by Vermont.
178 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: wardaddy
it is a liberal argument bolstered by liberals and race baiters and folks here who have no clue in the culture war.

I'm either paranoid, or you're talking about me. Since you've told me that I have no clue about the culture war, I'll guess the latter.

I think it's an important point to make (the takers/givers) not because of liberal or conservative politics but because of the made up rural/urban divide. It's no divide. Better than four out of five people live in urban or suburban areas.

I see the anti-urban bias here at FR in much the same light that you see the see bias against people with money, which you have commented on. Don't even get me started on the bias against the educated.

179 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:55 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sherman Logan
The only difference I can see is that TX can split itself without congressional approval. But then the new states would still have to petition for entry into the Union.

Then the answer is clear: split into separate states, but don't apply for entry into the Union. Thereby having a defacto succession.

180 posted on 07/07/2012 2:01:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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