Posted on 06/13/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by Grig
That's my experience with mad bombers ~ the one who almost got me was, as you know, one of your fellow worshippers.
So, it's probably Harry Reid who tries to assassinate a President. He's crazy. He wants a better job. He hates Republicans. It's all there!
I do know that was forgotten completely in the run up to the Virginia primary. Somebody forgot that about 80% of the vote here is Evangelical ~ white and black ~ and if you want to get them out to vote for you it is necessary to kiss their communal tush, not kick it.
I'm looking at an historic low voter turnout here over that one issue.
I do hope for their sake that this idea that an Evangelical is going to assassinate a Mormon President is not a widespread belief.
NOTE ~ probably the right thread to note this, so far Romney hasn't made a big public appearance here before the masses of the great unwashed. His every appearance has been tightly controlled before elected officials or really, really, really rich people with their own security forces, and off in areas well off the beaten path.
He's showing every sign of being afraid of us.
There's more than a koinkydink going on here.
Just like their brethren in the Church of the First Born, the Mormons dig on horses. Ours ~ referring to the ancestors ~ was the same as that of the Indians ~ the spirit came to them and said "cut the horse loose. follow the horse" and that's how a bunch of them ended up in Oklahoma ~ actually them and the Indians eventually ended up in the same spot.
I have a theory about the trail the horses took, but that's not relevant here.
ALL the horse prophecies are less important and grand than the believers think them to be. In any case, you could be less embarrassed about these prophecies since they really do exist ~ they are part of the folk tales that color the past and make it interesting. But these horses are still just horses and you know what folks who walk behind a horse are stepping into every mile of the journey.
Now, about my patriotism, I care enough about America's future to fight the phony RINO all the way to the convention. People who don't really care have given up and let this guy bull his way through with cheating and technicalities.
I'm sorry, I am patriotic and you aren't!
I'm sorry not everyone meets your standards all the time but there are occassions when we have to slop the hogs anyway!
There's a cerebral disconnect between his mouth and his hands.
Dude had a gun in jail.
That, BTW, is an intersting piece of history. That was a common practice in frontier America. You just never separated a man from his piece ~ he might well need it! But, he wasn't going to escape from jail if he said he wasn't.
Sorry, but that's not the way it works. You can't deny basic Biblical doctrine, even down to the nature of God, and call yourself Christian. Believe whatever you want, but to be Christian (as Protestants and Catholics ARE) you have to go with the doctrine that exists instead of making up your own. No matter how much you say it won't make it so.
And as for Romney, I don't care who votes for him. But I'm not going to go along with the campaign to suddenly whitewash him and make him "conservative". He's an abortion pusher and a homosexual lover; that is his history and his record, no matter how inconvenient that might be for you. It's only been a few weeks since he said that "people of the same gender who LOVE each other" should be able to adopt children. Again, if you're comfortable casting a vote for that, go for it. But I will have nothing to do with him.
“Oh, sure there is...only instead of protesting like the Westboro family, you get Mormon back-and-forth murders between Mormon sects — like the LeBaron Mormons (see Ervil LeBaron...oh, and see also the Lafferty Brother Mormons”
The fact that you have to resort to naming groups outside of the LDS church who act contrary to the teachings of the LDS church underscores my point that my church isn’t out there stirring up contention.
“Ya know, the Westboros are essentially just one extended family — not so much a “church” or “denomination”... “
Just pointing out an example of a certain kind of mentality, and when it comes to Mormons, that mentality seems to be on display among some Evangelicals.
If you want to take it as a personal insult that we think your religion is not a 100% match for the gospel of Christ (just as every religion thinks of every other religion), be my guest, but it is kind of childish to act like that.
If you want to exaggerate your grievance by falsely saying we hold the rest Christianity as 100% wrong when we see a lot of common ground, you can do that to, but it makes you look dishonest.
If you want to believe that a person can spit in the face of a true prophet of God and reject the word of God that comes through him and still legitimately claim to be a follower of Christ, you have that option, but be too surprised when those who do that and don’t repent of it wind up damned.
Take a look at many of the posts here, non-Mormon poster after non-Mormon poster saying how sick they are of the kind of crap you are pulling right here.
Except that being Christian only means accepting Christ as the Son of God and Savior and seeking salvation through his atonement. So Catholics, Protestants, and Mormons all count as Christian groups no matter what one has authority or what one is actually correct (ie: a living branch rather than a dead one). The problem you talk about simply doesn’t exist for us. You guys seem to be the ones having trouble wrapping your head around it.
“Given the history of Presidential assassinations it’s going to be another Leftwingtard ~ maybe someone exactly like Harry Reid ~ hey, maybe Harry Reid himself!”
LOL, Reid? How would he do it? Whisper him to death? I don’t think he could come up with enough manliness to put a worm on a fishing hook unless it was a photo-op.
I won’t rule out a left-winger trying, but I expect Mitt to pick a strong conservative running mate and so a lefty knocking him off wouldn’t help them any.
“It’s well known that the mob that went after JS had been members...”
BS, it did include some who were excommunicated from us for their sins, but the historical fact is that the mob was people from Carthage, not Nauvoo.
“Sorry, but that’s not the way it works. You can’t deny basic Biblical doctrine, even down to the nature of God, and call yourself Christian.”
Being Christian does not require subscribing to the orthodox view. Look up the word Christian in the dictionary and you won’t see a requirement to buy into the trinity or the creeds.
What we reject is orthodox Christianity’s interpretation of the Bible from which they derive doctrines about the nature of God etc. that we hold as being incorrect. Nor are our doctrines ‘made up’ but revealed by God.
You know if you fail to discern when you read what I write, don't blame me when you twist my words.
I quite specifically declared that the Lds Church has declared the Christian CREEDS as "100% wrong" ... NOT as you twisted your generic reference to "Christianity...a lot of common ground" -- whatever that means.
So, let's go back to the Mormon source and then see your twisting in the wind on that:
Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects |
Mormon Source[Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain] |
| “...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…” | Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
| ...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…” | Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
So what part of "ALL" -- as in "ALL their creeds are an abomination" -- do you fail to understand???
All as in ‘each one of them has something wrong’, not all as in ‘every bit of every one of them wrong’. But of course for people who want to be offended, or at least act offended as a rhetorical tactic, will take it whatever they serves their agenda best.
Why do you care (or pretend to care) so much about what Mormons think of your creeds? Why is our approval so important to you? It is strange.
They were POd
I know that Mormons were the close confidants of Howard Hughes almost throughout his life. He chose to hire them exactly because they did not smoke, drink or gamble. He felt that they were very honest people and would not steal from him. I suppose, though, that there are bad eggs in every basket.
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