It's important!!!......:-)
Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26
A valiant effort, but probably wasted.
I well remember the Conservatives who proclaimed McCain “not conservative enough” who asked
“Why not just let Obama get elected? After all, how much harm could he do in four years?”
Now we know !
I was one of them. Well, almost. I knew that Obama was horrible but I also believed that McCain wouldn’t be much better. Sarah was the only reason that I voted for McCain at all. I did count on Obama being bad enough to wake people up. He has. I just hope that it is enough that have woken.
BTW, Mitt’s tepid response today already has me regretting that I even think voting for him is acceptable. What it comes down to for me is that no matter how bad Romney is or might be, we cannot allow Obama to remain in office. We must not allow him the opportunity to finish the destruction that he set on finishing when he doesn’t have to worry about reelection.
I haven’t read the entire thread so I don’t know how it all went but you certainly sparked a conversation. Thanks.
KIR
Of course not!
But, I can tell you the names of some teams that won't make it.
It's difficult to pick winners, but it's easy to pick some of the losers.
And, I know that you are willing to go with a loser!
Romney has not changed on the abortion issue. The truth is that he has changed multiple times on the abortion issue. The truth also is that he has ALWAYS governed using pro-abortion decisions.
The appearance is one of campaign expediency as one goes through his record. His changes came about when it was expedient for him to have a change.
Reagan was nothing like that. His book/essay “ “Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation” is full-blown anti-abortionism. He never wavered in his beliefs, even though in his time the pro-abortion sentiment in the media was near universal.
Romney says he has changed. I can understand doubting his word, I certainly do. But from a political standpoint I think there is a reasonable chance he will try to back up his words with actions. I’m especially hopeful of this concerning potential supreme court pick(s). I wouldn’t bet the ranch on it, but I would bet the ranch on what we get from Obama. Consequently I do believe there is a good chance less babies will die from abortions if Romney is elected. That makes my vote for him important....I would like to ask a former Chaplain how you KNOW he has not changed?
It's important!!!......:-)
Norm's post is not Realville, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how bad Bambi is. There are two candidates left who can win, Virgil and whatshisname aren't one of them.
One of those candidates is insufferable, unthinkable and inconceivably set on a course to ruin this country with his Marxist psychobabble.
The other is a RINO squish who we don't like for good reason.
I don't like Mitt, but the alternative is unthinkable. And no, he can't be contained, because he's lawless (like yesterday's edict concerning illegals), has no regard for what people want, or what's good, and will never take no for an answer. Heck, he could be caught murdering Hillary on live tv and the networks would say it's Bush's fault for being so divisive (a little humor for you in Rio Linda).
I'm sorry, we either boot Bambi and his minions to the curb or we might never get it back.
Trying to defeat Romney now won't help. Exaggerating how bad Romney is won't help, pretending he's the same as Bambi won't help. Getting rid of Bambi's minions gives us a chance.
Obama is one part of the larger problem. The fact that congress and the Supremes allowed their power to be usurped is the reall problem. Obama could have been stopped anywhere along the way and still could. But congress refused to do so. As do the Supremes (Diana Rooss notwithstanding ;).
In all seriousness however, The congress they will not reel in someone like Obama will surely give a free hand to ‘one of their own. You still believe that Romney is incapable of simmilar actions when his record is crystal clear that he is. You have also not addressed that Obama’s pre election history was one of nothing. His senate/state career was as hollow as a beach ball. But Romney’s was not. He has a head start and has repeatedly shown the desire to ignore his voters and legislate to appease special interests/donors.
To put such man in power with a castrated congress and thinking he will somehow magically repent of his prior governance is a fantasy, Lake. But he will win. And we are all going to discover which of us is right.
Just how many politicos of Romney’s stripe, throughout history, need to turn dictator before you see a pattern? But moreso, until we have a congress willing to do their jobs, it really doesn’t matter who is elected. Because they’re all/will be kings at this point.
He has changed multiple times. That’s all I really need to know. Expediency is his way of doing business.
And, since his decisions when in power have always been pro-abortion, then any current “change” is simply to be overlooked by those who desire to protect life.
You are guessing what Romney will do, but you don't know. You are claiming they are the same which is fatuous nonsense.
I don't like our position but it has to be as follows:
1. Get rid of the scourge and his minions (only one way to do that, Jack).
2. Elect as many conservatives to congress, and help the GOP take the senate.
3. Work like hell to keep their feet to the fire and hope we can survive another four years.
Romney’s evolution on abortion:
(Notice the 2012 position, he is not pro-life)
Romney said I am not comfortable with my status on abortion and want to be called pro-life. (2012)
Romney’s government health care provides $50 to free abortions. (current)
Romney appointed pro-choice judges to his court, they are still serving. (current)
Romney said Roe v Wade should be overturned and left to the states, so that makes me pro-life. (2011)
Romney supports stem cell research. (2004)
Romney said abortion should be kept legal, safe and rare and will honor that commitment. (2002)
Romney said I am committed to preserving abortions rights. (2002)
Romney whether you are for abortion or not is relevant, the individual should decide. (1999)
Romney said is a debate with Kennedy that he was more pro-choice than Kennedy. (1994)
Romney was applauded by plan parenthood for his pro-abortion stand. (1994)
“You are guessing what Romney will do, but you don’t know. You are claiming they are the same which is fatuous nonsense.”
I ‘claimed’ they were ‘as bad in different ways’. That’s a significant difference.
I admitted Romney will win lake. I’m not voting for him, but I have no doubt at this point he’ll win. He will oust Obama. I’m just worried about what hell he’ll unleash instead of the hell Obama has.
And BTW, just to bring this into crystal clarity, ‘m basing my speculation on the cold hard -FACT- of his record. You are -GUESSING- that he’ll go 180 and be the opposite president that he was a Governor.
Now based solely on statistical probability, with no emotion involved, which of us do you think will end up right?
Excellent list, svcw. Thanks.
It gives detail to what I was saying. Romney is a windvane on the issue of life. Whichever way his best interests lie at the moment is the direction he turns.
Romney says he will get rid of planned parenthood and Roe v. Wade should be overturned. Don’t you think there’s at least a chance he will back that up with actions if elected?
I think his goal all along has been the presidency. Once attained, again, there’s at least a chance he’ll try to live by the words that got him there. As a political animal it’s the only thing that makes sense, whether or not he believes those words. And that will saves lives.
We know for a fact what will happen with abortion if Obama is re-elected. And supreme court pick(s) will only solidify his radical views resulting in more abortions for years and years to come.
This is really the ultimate case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. We all take your view, there’s an Obama landslide. Think he’s bad now? Wait till he has a solid majority in the supreme court that creates laws essentially giving him free reign to run the country based on the mandate given him with said landslide victory. You really think he’ll care about all the third party votes? Please think about what reality is, not what you want it to be.
Sure! There's always a chance! Just like there's a chance of hitting it big on these things!
“Don’t you think there’s at least a chance he will back that up with actions if elected?”
Try this question instead:
“Don’t you think there’s at least a chance, BASED ON HIS PAST RECORD he will back that up with actions if elected?”
Either way? No, I don’t. Nor do I think if I pray really really hard that the Blue Fairy will come and make me a real boy.
What are the odds Obama will get rid of Planned Parenthood?
Better to ask yourself: what are the odds Planned Parenthood will be gotten rid of...period. It's now embraced by the Girl Scouts, by the Susan G Komen foundation, by numerous groups. The culture is changing around you, bramps - for the worse. Better to not put all your hopes and dreams in a smooth talking, lying former MA governor with slick promises and good hair.
Thanks.
I love that Romney just announces “call me pro-life”, sorry that does not make you pro-life. I mean I could announce I am 5’8” it will not make it so.
Hey, you want to be on the BBQ list?
;-)
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