Posted on 06/09/2012 8:31:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
Nothing goes through the Texas House unless Straus allows it
I didn't blame Bush. I said it was possible that he influenced the platform. Are saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? If so, how?
You want me to prove a negative? Why don't you prove your point? You don't have one except in your imagination!
You are too ignorant to have a decent discussion.
I haven't been going to FR lately. All you have done is remind me why? You can't even stay on topic! People like you have ruined FR! Don't bother to respond because I won't see it...you're a waste of time because you don't have a clue what you're opining about!
He will be hard pressed to win that Speakership again...I believe there are a lot of people paying attention (finally) to the nonsense that has gone on for the last two sessions...
No more threats, no more of this thugs running around threatening fellow state reps with losing their positions on committees, and any redistricting nonsense...
I really hope some of those that managed to cave into the BS last time realize we are paying attention and that Strauss needs to step away...But we know he won’t do that...
I agree. Strauss has screwed over Republicans by working with the demonrats in our state. He has to go as speaker. He is a effing RINO!
I wish I could have been at the convention. The establishment Republicans are doing their darn best to squelch the Tea Party
Share your sentiments.
I think we need to primary John Cornyn next time around with a strong Tea Party candidate.
Nope. My reading comphrehension is just fine.
“...We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach...”
“Market-based”? What is that? Upholding the law is too hard on businesses who need the modern version of slave labor from south of the border? If Arizona, a small state by comparison, can address immigration problems in defiance of a lawless DOJ, what is wrong with Texas? Since when is Texas crawling with cowards!
Don’t you recogiize that the rest of us have citizens being murdered by illegal aliens, and we want this crap stopped! We have immigration laws that must be enforced. Revisions are unneeded. Eisenhower did mass deportations, so can we today.
This problem has been festering for a very long time and needs to eliminated by a joint effort by ALL the states.
I am shocked that so-called conservatives in Texas would put such a plank in their party’s state platform. There will be blood on the floor at the convention in Tampa if it is tried there - guaranteed!
The woman has been a volunteer grassroots activist in the Republican Party for 20 years and has served with distinction from Precinct Chair to Secretary of the TX State Party. No one who knows her questions her credentials, and she did the entire convention on her own nickel, like most of the other delegates and alternates. Didn’t get a dime from another soul.
Someone is either lying or quite misinformed. I was there. It was NOT a “VIP” list. The first slate of people nominated for the At-Large Delegate positions were the “Statewide Elected Officials”. The woman who moved to strike Straus from the list argued that he is not a statewide officeholder. She said he is one of 150 State Reps, and if they put him on the list, there would be no room for grassroots delegates when all the other Republican State Reps and State Senators wanted on the list. She agreed that the other names on the slate appear on her ballot, so they should be on the “Statewide Slate”, but Straus was not on her ballot, so he didn’t get an automatic position. Perhaps someone should note that Sen. Steve Ogden was nominated by someone else and was elected to the at-large list, and if someone on that committee would have nominated Straus as a regular delegate, that same argument would have held true. I believe he was removed by a vote of 18 to 12. The woman did NOT, in fact, put herself in Straus’ slot. The second slate of people put on the at-large list was everyone on the committee who stood up to say they wanted to attend the national convention, and she was elected along with all of those committee members. The third slate of people elected were staff members from RPT. Then all other individual names were placed on the lists. No one person did ANYthing. There was a committee of 36 people, chaired by a Parliamentarian, and nothing passed without a majority vote of the committee.
Thanks for this...It’s good information to know.
Awwww... Looky here. Another Texas crybaby. Buh-bye.
"IMMIGRATION
The Texas Solution – Because of decades-long failure of the federal government to secure our borders and address the immigration issue, there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today, each of whom entered and remain here under different circumstances. Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues by following these principles:1. Secure Our Borders – The U.S. Border must be secured immediately! We demand the application of effective, practical and reasonable measures to secure our borders and to bring safety and security for all Americans along the border and throughout the nation.
2. Modernize the United States Social Security Card – We support the improvement of our 1936 Social Security card to use contemporary anti-counterfeit technology. The social security card will not be considered a National ID card for U.S. citizens.
3. Birthright Citizenship – We call on the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States with no exceptions.
4. Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program – A national Temporary Worker Program should be implemented to bring skilled and unskilled workers into the United States for temporary periods of time when no U.S. workers are currently available. Additional program requirements should require:
- This program would be self-funded through participation fees and fines;
- Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
- Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines;
- Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
- Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement programs;
- Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
- Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
- All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant."
How anyone can come to the conclusion that this is "supporting illegal immigration" is beyond me!
The first motion was to put a slate of "Statewide Officials" on the list. The list originally contained the names of our Lt. Governor, Attorney General, Comptroller, Land Commissioner, Ag Commissioner, Speaker of the House, and the 3 Railroad Commissioners. My motion was to strike the Speaker of the House from the statewide list on the grounds that he is not elected statewide. I testified that the other 8 officials listed are on my ballot, but the Speaker of the House was not. I also testified respectfully that he is 1 member of a body that has 150 members, and if we put 1 State Rep elected from 1 district on the "statewide" list, we would have to put on every other Republican State Rep or State Senator who wanted to go to National and there would be no room left for the grassroots, who we were elected to represent. I had no power to remove anyone from the list on my own. There was a quorum present of the 36 members of the National Nominations Committee and my motion carried by a vote of 18 to 12 by a proper committee vote.I would also like to offer to you that one of the 12 committee members who was not happy with the outcome of the vote came to me on a break and asked if he were to nominate Joe Straus as a delegate apart from the "Statewide slate", would I vote for him, and I promised I would vote for Straus to be a delegate if he came in under those conditions. That member never nominated Speaker Straus.
The second slate of additions, as is the committee's tradition, was to add to the list the names of anyone on the National Nominations Committee who wanted to go.
“Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. “
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Talk about a cheesy false dichotomy! First blanket amnesty is off the table, and “mass deportation” is “spooky talk” to make people like me sound “racist.” The fact of the matter — already well-reported by the MSM — is that when serious immigration-law enforcement is implemented (see AZ SB 1087), many illegals will SELF-DEPORT.
Since this is already known, I can only say that the committee that wrote this had a soft-on-law agenda and that they slid this through.
Apparently Lt-Gov Candidate Jerry Patterson was INSTRUMENTAL in getting this language incorporated into the platform.
Bottom line for voting: Vote for Patterson’s opponent (Todd Staples) for Lt Governor in 2014.
Bottom line long term: In 2014, we need to make sure we “take the platform back” from the amnesty-light crowd.
I agree 100% and that is exactly what this platform language supports!
I will be supporting Jerry Patterson to the best of my ability in the 2014 Lt. Governor's race.
Additional program requirements should require:
This program would be self-funded through participation fees and fines;
Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;
Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines;
Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;
Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement programs;
Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;
Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;
All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant.”
You seriously think this is amnesty lite?
“How anyone can come to the conclusion that this is “supporting illegal immigration” is beyond me!”
I am not going to address your sentiment, as it probably is by your own account, beyond your understanding.
This is the problem. “...We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues...” There already exists immigration laws! Those laws were voted upon by Congress. The fact that those laws are not being enforced by the Federal Government is the big problem. Why revise something that isn’t utilyzed and isn’t broken?
Conservative is ‘enforcing existing law’, which is missing from the Texas Republican’s party platform. Seeking a “market-based approach...” is evidence present employers of illegal aliens want a pass, so they can continue to exploit cheap labor from south of the border rather than pay U.S. prevailing wages to the unemployed citizens of the U.S. It is typical of a state’s “power to politics” to keep large political donors happy, and it is NOT conservative.
“...there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today,..Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical;..”
On this one, I say bull!
There already exists a means to round-up and mass deport illegal aliens. Homeland Security has plans for evacuating people in the event of emmergencies, and those plans will work perfectly for mass deportations. If Eisenhower could do it, so can we IF we have the will to do so.
“Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program”.
Sure sounds good but it has been tried in the past and failed. Enforcement is the key. Such programs in the past allowed people entrance to this country - and they never left.
By the way, back in 1993 when hundreds of thousands of American computer and electrical engineers were out of work, the government was issuing visas to engineers from Asia at the behest of businesses who claimed they couldn’t find American workers. It was nonsense then, just as it is nonsense now.
It is time we, and by that I mean conservatives, stand up for all Americans and stop certain business sectors and the Democratic Party from destroying the United States for their own gain, personal or poltical.
So show me where I, or anything in the platform for that matter, says that we should not enforce existing law. I'll wait.
I happen to believe that doing what the platform suggests would result in most of the people currently here illegally deporting themselves!
Thanks, Paleo.
What are some specific issues on which Cruz is liberal while Dewhurst is conservative?
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