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Interesting. The most important metric is to have a gun if you need one. In most cases, the mere presence of the gun is enough to stop the aggression.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 3:38:57 PM PDT by marktwain
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When the Israelis were implicated in an assassination scandal that targeted PLO leaders hiding in Europe and ended up with an innocent man getting killed the weapons they used were .22’s and they aimed for multiple shots to the abdomen. I don’t know if it was because they were hoping the leader died an agonizing death or it was considered the best target to aim for. In either case they obviously weren’t worried that the .22 wasn’t going to be powerful enough for the job.


34 posted on 06/04/2012 4:26:20 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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Another reason that a .22 is so destructive is the fact that it tumbles as it goes through a soft mass, thereby doing great harm. A large bore simply goes straight through the mass.


38 posted on 06/04/2012 4:29:30 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Just a few observations on the grand old .22

A 300lb sow can be put down with a .22 short when placed in right section of the X you imagine on her head. (Grew up on a hog farm, know the routine.)

The mafia preferred (prefers?) the grand old .22. In their thinking, you weren’t worth the extra money for a “premium” round. The supreme insult, you got offed by a pi$$ant round. (Don’t know myself, but I’ve been told.)

According to what has been written, a lot of black and wet ops guys used the .22 for assassination work. The books The KGB and The CIA both mention it. The movie, Gideon’s Sword (based on a true story) made a point of referring to the Israeli preference for the round in their line of work. Easily concealed, relatively quiet, universally available. (Again, I don’t know, but I been told...)

What I do know for a fact is that once upon a different lifetime I knew folks who owned those small Beretta “flip top” .22s. (Never owned one myself, true beans.)

Those little suckers would spit 8 inches of flame, bark like a banshee, and scare the pi$$ out of everybody, even the guy shooting it. The street thugs with their big bad 9s would run and hide like rabbits. You didn’t need to hit a thing and you could always find the bad guys by following the pee trail.

Finally, I read an article saying that the number of people killed by the humble .22 is way high on the charts. (Now don’t some one of you go asking where I got that, I did NOT pull it out my butt, I remember reading something in Shotgun News [I think] about 15 years ago. They had a chart on the number of people known to have been killed by the different calibers in street crime.)

I like the .22. Versatile, light, easily controlled, [and that’s really, really important] deadly, and the best part, its usually under the anti gunner’s radar.


42 posted on 06/04/2012 4:31:56 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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Ask these fella's what they think about a 22lr. Photobucket
49 posted on 06/04/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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Hits. It’s all about hits.


61 posted on 06/04/2012 4:56:16 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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All things considered, I prefer the .357 Sig loads in most of my handguns. I go with 9mm when size and weight is a major consideration
62 posted on 06/04/2012 4:56:23 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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From what I understand the Israeli Mossad agents use the .22 Beretta or something similar but when they use it they get up very close and personal and do head shots only.

From what I have read the more effective rounds for most people start at .40 cal./10mm and go upward. I’m just not sure how many women feel comfortable handling the kick from a compact carry .40 cal.


66 posted on 06/04/2012 4:58:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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380 loaded with hollow points.


72 posted on 06/04/2012 5:07:58 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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Anyone see the Season 4 episode of Top Shot called "SWAT Throwdown?" In one challenge, contestants used a very cool pistol called the FN Five-Seven:

It almost could qualify as a .22 cal pistol, being chambered in 5.7mm. There is an optional 30-round magazine! Muzzle velocity is about 1,900 fps. Very accurate. The Secret Service carries them. Drawbacks: it and the ammo it uses are expensive.

FN Five-Seven review.

88 posted on 06/04/2012 5:39:51 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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.22 is a great round. Just ask Nicky when he had to take out that pesky Gaming Commissioner in Casino.

But if you could get your hands on one of Barret's new handguns, you could end many fights just by flashing it at the perp.


97 posted on 06/04/2012 5:56:22 PM PDT by CapnJack
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Bookmark.


114 posted on 06/04/2012 7:33:34 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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There’s a big difference between a bedside piece and a walkin’-around gun. The ability to hide a gun on your person makes the .22LR the ideal choice for most daily duties, at least in summer.

Yeah, I’d much rather carry a bigger hammer, but a tiny .22 in your pants pocket is better than leaving home half-dressed because you can’t hide your “buddy.”

And shot placement remains king, so practice, practice, practice. (Which is cheaper with a .22!)


115 posted on 06/04/2012 7:51:12 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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.22 is my main weapon of choice. I have 7 right now. Mainly cause the ammo is so much cheaper and the weapons are cheaper and easier to maintain.

I do have some other weapons also, but the .22 is my main weapon stash.


117 posted on 06/04/2012 8:12:08 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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ping


127 posted on 06/05/2012 4:13:58 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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I enjoyed the 22 at my first “Woman On Target” class this weekend....The instructor said the bullet travels once it’s inside and also it is the gun of choice for the mafia(:


139 posted on 06/05/2012 1:37:44 PM PDT by geege
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If it comes to survival, you can easily carry a couple thousand rounds of .22LR plus some clothing and food.

If comes down to urban warfare the .22LR might be the best round you could have!


151 posted on 06/05/2012 6:46:38 PM PDT by dalereed
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Good article. I might add, a .22cal should be one of the first tools in a preppers bag.


152 posted on 06/05/2012 6:56:36 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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