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The Club For Growth’s Depressing Study: Failure and Lies of the Tea Party Congresscritters
Redstate.com ^
| May 16 2012
| Erick Erickson
Posted on 05/17/2012 5:26:16 AM PDT by iowamark
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:26:28 AM PDT
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iowamark
To: iowamark; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”
There have been many studies out on the tea party congress and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against.
Probably one of the best places to get a sense of this is the Club for Growth. Why? The Club ignores social votes and focuses only on fiscal votes spending issues more than anything else. The tea party candidates went to Congress not just to repeal Obamacare, but were really motivated by out of control government spending, bailouts, etc
But what of the candidates who actually went to DC on a wave of tea party support. Turns out some of them were liars and a lot of them behaved like the pigs in Animal Farm with some of them deciding they were more equal than others. The Club for Growths new study of this Tea Party Congress paints a rather depressing picture. You can see how the freshman of the Tea Party Class of 2010 preformed by clicking right here ”
Big surprise.
It is reported today that Boehner held a closed door Republicans strategy meeting to plot out the course after the SCOTUS rules on Obama-care:
Plan A) If Obama-care is fully thrown out House Republicans will put up bills to re-impose the popular costly mandates on insurance companies such as pre-existing conditions, without a personal mandate, that is disaster A
Plan B) If Obama-care is upheld then the House will put up bills to strip out the unpopular parts, like the personal mandates and and taxes and leave in the popular handouts and mandates.
These would be pretty poor policies but I am assuming that they are counting on those bills dying in the Senate.
While this has not been made public I couldnt help notice it's exactly what I expected.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:40:44 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
To: sickoflibs
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:42:09 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
To: Perdogg
It’s a leak. It was a closed door meeting.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:43:38 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
To: sickoflibs
But if the vote comes down to supporting the Rep-E led Congress at the end after trying in the system for less spending, etc, but failing, they will vote accordingly rather than supporting the Dems, which wold be the only other option. This study only looks at the final result, not the actions that take place during the “sausage-making” of committee hearings, mark-ups, etc. just not enough to make the substantial changes, given the fact that Boener runs the House, and his cronies are committee heads.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:51:27 AM PDT
by
rstrahan
To: iowamark
Not much news here, just old hat. Go to Washington DC, get corrupted; it's a story as old as our nation.
It's frustrating, irritating, disappointing, but not really a surprise. I truly no long believe that America will survive the next 4 decades. Fortunately for me, I have no kids and will probably be dead BEFORE the money and time run out, but I feel sorry for all of you who have children to worry about.
We conservatives were too complacent for too long and allowed our Constitution to be destroyed piecemeal by leftist legislators and activist judges. Now, short of some convulsive shift in the voting public, back towards sanity and responsibility, our nation is headed down the path of all great nations.
Well, 2 centuries is a pretty good run, but greed, sloth, envy, and selfishness were always destined to supplant selflessness, industry, and self-respect.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:55:27 AM PDT
by
Sudetenland
(Anybody but Obama!!!!)
To: iowamark
Anyone who expected every Tea Party congressman to stay true to our ideals was an ignorant, political juvenile.
This is a looooong process where we will keep weeding out the inferior politicians in favor of new blood, even if those inferior politicians ran under the Tea Party banner.
The only goal of this story is to depress and destroy the Tea Party.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:57:10 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
To: iowamark
When the “results” defy common sense...
Check the markings on the yardstick!
Metrics are usually poorly designed to achieve meaningful measurements,
OR
INTENTIONALLY designed to deceive.
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posted on
05/17/2012 5:59:48 AM PDT
by
G Larry
(Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
To: iowamark
Some of the better-known tea party frosh:
98% Ben Quayle
92% Tim Scott
64% Allen West
60% Kristi Noem
58% Sean Duffy
56% Adam Kinzinger
To: rstrahan
What, we shouldn’t hold individual lawmakers responsible for the patterns of their votes?
Who are you, Sen. Lugar’s chief of staff?
To: 9YearLurker
John McCain has a better score than Allen West.
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posted on
05/17/2012 6:09:06 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
To: rstrahan
RE :”
But if the vote comes down to supporting the Rep-E led Congress at the end after trying in the system for less spending, etc, but failing, they will vote accordingly rather than supporting the Dems, which wold be the only other option. This study only looks at the final result, not the actions that take place during the sausage-making of committee hearings, mark-ups, etc. just not enough to make the substantial changes, given the fact that Boener runs the House, and his cronies are committee heads”
Boehner definitely played them, giving them their symbolic votes and afterward getting them to vote for the Obama-Boehner compromises which did go into law.
The Debt limit/deficit reduction bill is the worse example of this shameless effective strategy.
The symbolic votes are just for primary protection purposes.
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posted on
05/17/2012 6:09:52 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
To: Perdogg
Some folks here (and Sarah Palin) are still big fans of West, but I’ve been quite disappointed with him.
To: 9YearLurker
Some folks here (and Sarah Palin) are still big fans of West, but Ive been quite disappointed with him. That's because a lot of FReepers are gullible and easily-led, and are more attracted to loudly-made public pronouncements than they are interested in looking at a candidate's actual record.
This also explains the sudden rush to "reimagine" Mitt Romney as conservatism's great paladin and its last, best hope.
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posted on
05/17/2012 6:27:39 AM PDT
by
Yashcheritsiy
(A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
To: iowamark; xzins; SoConPubbie
This is simply more evidence that, despite the naysaying from some quarters here on FR, I am correct in my assertion that the only way to effectively deal with the problem is for conservatives to band together in dumping the GOP and creating a new organization for political action.
Trying to work within the present system won’t work because it’s players are too entrenched. The only way to unentrench them is to sap the dirt out from under their trenches.
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posted on
05/17/2012 6:30:39 AM PDT
by
Yashcheritsiy
(A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
To: Perdogg
John McCain has a better score than Allen West. If you need any more evidence that the rating system is flawed...
To: sickoflibs
And the source for the “leak”?
The only one I’ve seen is Pollutico.
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posted on
05/17/2012 7:27:54 AM PDT
by
free me
(heartless)
To: free me
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posted on
05/17/2012 7:35:14 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
To: Skulllspitter
McCain’s a pretty fiscally conservative voter but possibly votes should be weighted in this as not all votes are equal.
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posted on
05/17/2012 7:48:43 AM PDT
by
bkepley
To: sickoflibs
” RE :There have been many studies out on the tea party congress and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against.”
Trent Lott and McConnell did their job well..
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posted on
05/17/2012 9:09:11 AM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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