Posted on 05/12/2012 3:38:57 PM PDT by svxdave
People of different faiths, like yours and mine, sometimes wonder where we can meet in common purpose, when there are so many differences in creed and theology. Surely the answer is that we can meet in service, in shared moral convictions about our nation stemming from a common worldview.
I don’t have a “common worldview” with an abortion-enabler and homosexual lover.
This sinner can't define "truth" either. I'm surprised that you think you can.
I am just at a loss to understand why anyone would believe all this. The golden plates, the angel Moroni, the nonsense about the twelve tribes coming to the US, the absurd story about God and Mary, other planets, Satan—why?
Sure. No problem there. But that’s not my point. Heck, he’s even admitting he’s of a different faith. He, as a Mormon, is saying to a Christian audience “People of different faiths, like yours and mine,”.
I’m not saying Mormons are some vile, evil thing. Nor do I dislike them. They are free to believe as they will and I’m 100% fine with that. I’m saying that they are not Christian by the definition of the term. That’s all. Mitt seems to agree.
As I said "Most of us sinners are not qualified to make this judgement". Actually, I think that ALL of us sinners are NOT qualified to make this judgement.
It’s not “I think I can”. It’s reading a book and understanding the clear words therein. If I’m mistaken in my above positions, please tell me where and I will correct my statement.
That's a fair point. It's also a fair point that it is more natural to govern as a somewhat conservative Dimocrat in Georgia or Arkansas than as a Republican in Massachusetts, however moderate he may be.
Our goals are ejecting Obama from the White House, keeping the House and booting Reed out of the Leader office. I am heartened by the reviews of Romney's speech before the evangelicals. This was a major test.
I didn't say you were mistaken, I said you (and I) were not qualified to be the judge. Only God is the judge.
Many, many years ago, I had a dear, close family relative that was very close to me who passed away from an illegal abortion. It is since that time that my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter. And you will not see me wavering on that.
So, you are a Catholic? A lot of Christians don’t consider the Catholic church Christian either. I guess it is whose proclamation you get out? It seems to me Christ is the only arbiter. So, I would just be careful.
But I’m not judging. Judgement requires opinion. It’s not my opinion that Mormons are not Christian. Mormons are Mormons because they follow Mormonism. Christians are Christians because they follow Christ/the Bible. These are two different things. Opinion or judgement play no role.
Mormonism and Christianity are not the same. The theology differs, the history differs, the beliefs differ. My favorite Lincoln quote sums it up...”How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Answer, “4”. Calling a tail a leg does not make it one”.
So Christians have to accept Hinduism and Scientology as Christian religions, all religions and cults are Christian, or at least so, if they want to claim it?
You don’t accept the Catholic church, the Baptists, the Methodists, the Greek Orthodox, the Lutherans, and so on when they all agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion?
The ignorance of the LDS church is apparent here. Romney, even if he were called to be an Apostle would have at least 14 people ahead of him (and several younger than 65). I do not think “candidate” is a position. However, there was one Apostle than was Secretary of Agriculture which was a government position. Romney is not now a Bishop, although he has been one nor is he a Stake President, although he has been one.
Hey, Romney'll never lie, right?
See post 73, if you are a member of a Christian church, Protestant, or Catholic, then they agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion.
I am simply "accepting" that I am not qualified to judge others.
You think that Bishop Romney’s climb in the religion is over and done with?
You know by defining Christianity by a 4th century creed leaves out the early Christians as they had no creed to go by at the time, but they thought they were Christians. I guess they thought wrong.
Ansel, who’d have ever thought you and I would be on the same side of an argument ? ;)
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