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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Longbow1969; CharlesWayneCT

“that’s pretty much just one person spamming old anti-Romney stories people have already read or otherwise don’t care about. It’s like a daily temper tantrum resulting in useless dated material being sprayed out on to the forums.”

Yeah, it degrades the utility of the site to have old dated respammed stuff crowding out real stories.


1,161 posted on 05/04/2012 9:52:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: betty boop
This criminal conspiracy MUST be removed from the Oval Office. This is the most corrupt executive I have ever seen in my life, and perhaps in all American history.

Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!


1,162 posted on 05/04/2012 10:05:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head
The change, getting back to the constitution, has to be done “consitutionally”.

Well the 'only way' that can be done is as determined already, by Constitutional amendment. Congress or the states can initiate that.... then the amendment has to be ratified by a fixed number of states before it takes effect... it can also be changed at a "Constitutional Convention,"... but none have been done that way since the 1700s.

1,163 posted on 05/04/2012 10:10:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: MSSC6644

“I don’t really support Ron Paul”

Then don’t shill for him. The primary is over. Romney will be the nominee. Ron Paul is only making noise and is irrelevent, except for how he has destroyed the ability for consensus conservatives to win (see my other post on this).


1,164 posted on 05/04/2012 10:12:39 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: caww

Well they do bash Jim and FR relentlessly on that site ....yet you then come into Jim’s House, thinking you should be received as a guest, and sit at his table??? Why not just go to a site who doesn’t bash your friend here?


I don’t insult anyone. Well, not often - I can get a mite riled up at times, not being the most even tempered person in the universe. Those times I normally hit abuse on my own posts and ask they be removed, then apologise via freepmail to whoever it was.
Any mod can confirm that. So can anyone I have insulted in the past (probably three or four people).

I am happy to come in, sit on Jim’s porch and shoot the breeze with like minded people. Fetch along the odd 6 pack too, or start discussions (sometimes provocatively - ask DJ or wagglebee about my abortion thread sometime).

I simply got saddened then irritated by what, to me, seemed like censorship of free speech via zotting.
I don’t make the mistake of assuming that free speech means you can say what you like and damn about the feelings of others. Posted about that here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2876381/posts?page=535#535 or see the last line on my profile page. But I do believe that everyone has the right to be heard even if - or especially if - they see things differently from you.

How else do you continue to learn and grow?


1,165 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:46 PM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah; right. Whatever!


1,166 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:32 PM PDT by Homers-odd-I-see (We've got to get Obama out of the White House on Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“If public schools still taught kids to read, it might be possible to have supplemental books that parents could furnish to their kids, books which would “fill in the holes” left by lie-berals in school texts.”

Yes, and I encourage any parents who have no choice about putting their kids in public school to spend an hour debriefing them every day.

It may well be the best part of both your days. Make it fun and loving. You have more influence over your children than a truckload of commie teachers. Utilize it!


1,167 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:09 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: CharacterCounts; Kevmo

Most conservatives are Republican.
Most Republicans are conservatives.


1,168 posted on 05/04/2012 10:21:23 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Homers-odd-I-see

MEOW much?


1,169 posted on 05/04/2012 10:26:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: WOSG
Then don’t shill for him.

Read all my other 13 posts on this and I hope you'll understand I wasn't being a shill. You seem to be very angry.

1,170 posted on 05/04/2012 10:28:01 PM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan: pray the Rosary.)
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To: MSSC6644

I’m not angry at all, but see #1146.

people keep wondering why conservatives seem hapless in the presidential primaries, and we need to realize the destructive influence Ron Paul has had in the dynamic.

JMHO.


1,171 posted on 05/04/2012 10:31:32 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: WOSG
The constant Romney attacks are part of that too. He’s not perfect nor conservative, but the anti-Romney hyperbole is extreme to the point of absurdity, inclduing the silly claim that he’s not different from Obama; might as well go to dKos if you want a site trashing a Republican that bad.

One could make the argument that Mitt's current platform is far more conservative than Obama and that it's worth taking a long-shot chance on Mitt.

That said...

Mitt is a known liar.

In my view Mitt's supposed "conversion" on abortion (and other issues) is a little too late in life for me to believe.

It's still May. Why support Mitt now when his stinky feet need to be held to the fire, every minute of every day?

At this point in time I will reserve judgement on what I will do in November.

1,172 posted on 05/04/2012 10:32:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JRandomFreeper

Since Dole and Clinton.
The GOP never wins when they run a liberal or moderate. But they keep trying. And folks keep buying the fear thing.


No arguments from me on that statement although I question just how much appetite for discomfort our fellow citizens have. Most people are going to have to tighten their belts including those on social security if we are going to save ourselves.

I am not ashamed to admit that I am very afraid of what is coming. I have three little reasons - ages 3, 5, and 6. I wonder what life will be like for them. Most American’s seem more concerned about their own comfort than future generations.

“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.” - Thomas Jefferson

Wise words indeed. Our children will pay the debts with austerity and blood if we don’t address the problems we voted for.


1,173 posted on 05/04/2012 10:34:59 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: Magic Fingers; Finny

“A more complete way to look at it is that by casting your vote for someone other than Obama OR Romney in the General, neutral between those two, you are using your vote to weaken either liberal victory.”

“If Obama wins it will be 100% Communist, 100% of the time, with him and his appointees (cabinet posts, czars, judges). The destructive regime won’t be weakened in the slightest by a symbolic protest vote.”

CORRECT!

Obama’s 2nd term will be his most dangerous one.


1,174 posted on 05/04/2012 10:35:02 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: MaxFlint

“Either he’s a left winger or he’s an opportunist. “

The odds of a Mormon venture capitalist businessman with 5 kids and a normal stay-at-home wife being a leftist? ZERO.

100% opportunist.

Romney will be a weathervane Republican, which beats Marxist Obama hands down.


1,175 posted on 05/04/2012 10:45:45 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: volunbeer
Locally, I have three grandbabies under age 6 and their mother and my son-in-law that I worry about. Can't do much about the batch in California...

I called them tonight to warn them of the storm that veered south of us.

We're all in the same boat, however. And my crew is ready for what comes.

I personally haven't had running hot water since late 2008.

Not bad during the summer, when the water here is bath temp. But it's... refreshing.... in the winter.

/johnny

1,176 posted on 05/04/2012 10:45:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dagnabitt

I’m voting Romney and hoping he wins.
Because no matter how much he will disappoint me starting on January 20, 2013, I still get to taste (figuratively) the sweet tears of unfathomable sadness shed by Obama, Mooch, and all their idiot supporter for a two and a half glorious months.

I’ll at least have that.


Thanks for the laugh. I will enjoy watching that!


1,177 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:18 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: delapaz

“So Obama takes the blame, we teach the GOP a lesson about acceptable nominations, and a crack at a conservative in 2016 to rebuild the economy. Triple play.”

But this puts us in the bizarre position of hoping Obama wins. . .


1,178 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:18 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: caww

I’m not talking about changing the Constitution. I am talking about the nation changing...congress, the executive, the SCOTUS so that they actually follow the Constitution

To do that involves we the people electing the right people to office who will do so and keep their oath to do so.

We took a good step in that direction in 2010 during the mid terms with the Tea Party.

We just have to get people who will pass laws, sign laws, and interpret lawas according to the Constitution as it exists.

That is my meaning.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


1,179 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: caww

I’m not talking about changing the Constitution. I am talking about the nation changing...congress, the executive, the SCOTUS so that they actually follow the Constitution

To do that involves we the people electing the right people to office who will do so and keep their oath to do so.

We took a good step in that direction in 2010 during the mid terms with the Tea Party.

We just have to get people who will pass laws, sign laws, and interpret lawas according to the Constitution as it exists.

That is my meaning.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


1,180 posted on 05/04/2012 10:48:49 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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