Posted on 05/01/2012 11:42:07 AM PDT by ColdOne
HAHA Hahahaaaa.. Good one. How about the employers claim bankruptcy then go on the government dole? It seems that everything that makes America unique is being stripped from our landscape. Employer health plans, 401k 'company match' contributions, etc., were an effort by employers to LURE and KEEP good employees. Now since people will take just about any job they can find, there's no incentive for employers to offer perks. Obama has created a slave state where we're happy just to get our one piece of bread and small cup of water. Thank you, almighty one! /sarc
Exactly. This was the plan all along. The whole structure of 0bamacare is just lies piled on lies.
You get the employers out of providing health care first, then push everyone into government run exchanges, followed by a single payer system. That was the plan all along. Obama said it himself.
I can see the fine for companies not to provide health insurance would rise rapidly.
Is there a mechanism in obamamcare for this fine to increase automatically? Or does the HHS secretary has the authority to increase this?
More of a reason for the USSC to strike down the entire law!
First they force every one onto Medicaid who is on Medicare. Do you know anyone on Medicaid?
This was the reason for the bill in the first place, this is the ONLY reason for the Bill.. to make EVERYONE even the producers dependent on government. Pure and Simple... anyone telling you otherwise is LYING.
Healthcare costs at my employer was $9,120 per employee in 2010. Of that $4,023 was paid by the employee so the company actually spent $5,097 per employee. At around 400,000 employees that means they spent ~$2B. After paying the fines the company would net $1.2B more to the bottom line. Costs have been increasing about 10% per year so they would probably be doing better than that.
Why would they keep paying for insurance?
My hubby’s company did the same thing a few years ago. After the “audit” they reported that they found 400 ineligible people on the plan. But somehow, the rates didn’t go down.
Then.... they started this b.s. where hubby has to do “their” physical and not have 3 or more “risk factors” in order to save $500 on the following years premium. If you have 3 or more risks then you have to do their “losing weight” online program to get the discount regardless of what the risk factors are.
Well this time they are requiring the spouse to take the physical as well for a savings of $1500 on next years premium..... Not gonna happen.
It has already begun.
The solution of course is not more medicare, but if the goal is single payer, that’s how it will happen, because they’ve got it halfway there already.
I didn’t say it would be paid for......Of course it won’t be paid for!
LOL!
Pay them what Chintofat pays Communist peasants in Walmart sweat shops.
“More of a reason for the USSC to strike down the entire law!”
Ok, I agree Obamacare should be struck down.
Then what? Do you think that there is no limit to what employer-paid health care can cost and still be available to employees?
No matter what happens with Obamacare, employers will still be unable to profitably operate forever when medical costs exceed inflation.
Many have already reached that point.
So, again, then what?
For a few years, it would.
Then the government, who could not possibly afford to treat all these people, will come in and rape the employers with taxes.
You know, "to make up for the fact that we picked up everyone you dropped".
And one more step towards communism.
“...to make EVERYONE even the producers dependent on government. Pure and Simple.”
More than that. It’s to convert the USA into a European style socialist state. The socialists will use medical care as the mechanism for vast expansion of government, not just for medical care.
The argument conservatives must make is that the government must be removed....completely removed from health care in order to maintain a robust healthcare system for everyone.
When a plurality of people get something for “free” you are asking the impossible. A “You pay for yours, I pay for mine” is the solution, but you gotta convince those that get it for free to play along.
It will never happen, until government healthcare fails completely - THEN people who get it for free will agree to pay for their care - not one second before, and we can proceed on the basis of willing buyer/willing provider (free enterprise).
Anyone who doesn't realize this isn't listening....
Businesses have been wanting government healthcare for years.
To be sure that you filed a joint return and are willing to face the IRS to defend your marital status (IRS trumps penalty of perjury, those guys play hardball). It's to weed out all the HINO's and WINO's (no pun intended). I'll bet there is a clause about living together as "man and wife" in the policy although they probably were forced to amend that to "man and whatever."
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