Where’s the ‘Probable Cause’?

national review ^ | 4-13-12 | John Lott

[Aunt Polgara]

I had wondered if GZ did take the route in pink, and came upon Martin, around F.

It makes perfect sense if Trayvon also took the pink route... not saying that's what happened, but it would account for the altercation happening at "F" as Z was returning to his truck. Z's actual statements (as opposed to the hearsay interviews given by his family) should all come out in the trial, if things get that far.

[lentulusgracchus]

This is High Communism in action, with the full pressure of a Thugocracy in the White House backed up by the threat of large numbers of anonymous murders roaming the streets seeking revenge. No jury will acquit this man.

We'll find out about the last part, but I agree, this is thug law and a thug regime, and yes, they are acting exactly like Communists seeking to prove to the world that |Party > People| and also |Party > State > Individual|, so that there is no situation in which the interests of the Party will fail to prevail over the rights of the person.

It's a direct repudiation and refutation (they hope) of the entire history of U.S. law and the Constitution's guarantees of life and liberty.

I think that is, at base, why Obama has been engaging the Supreme Court directly and trying to bully them, from his SOTU lie-challenge last year right up to this moment.

The Regime's animating actors really, truly are reconstituted and "de-named" Communists in action.

[TigersEye]

100% agreed! 0baMao is a consummate "community organizer" (AKA "street agitator") and he has adapted those skills to the national politics level. He plants seeds (criticize SCOTUS in SOTU speech) lets others water them (Pelosi, Reid et al) encourages street level agitators to cultivate his plantings (Sharpton, NBPP etc.) and directs his minions to harvest the fruit. (Holder and the DoJ)

He is working on dominating every facet of government and society.

His Wookie plants seeds about following social controls. (dietary restrictions, "food deserts") There is no force of law in what she says but her words are conditioning the populace to be obedient to "Federal guidelines." Of course guidelines have a way of morphing into regulations which do have the force of law.

[Alice in Wonderland]

As it says above at the end Tracy Martin himself hasn't told the press that.

Yes, he has.

Tracy Martin Interview

[TigersEye]

I stand corrected. I misread the article which actually does attribute the quotes to Tracy Martin. It's still third-hand info and makes no sense when juxtaposed with known facts.

Hey, nice picture of Trayvon when he was 12. LOL Nothing like some good propaganda to go with your post.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I question everything George’s father said. I wasn’t there and neither was he. He was trying to retell the story George told him ... and did so in a confusing manner.

Many people here look at this as right vs left.

A few look at it as right vs wrong. I’m one of those. I believe George was wrong when he turned ‘neighborhood watch’ into ‘neighborhood follow’.

[TigersEye]

Now that you’re back you can answer Aunt Polgara’s question in post #173.

[TigersEye]

Many people here look at this as right vs left.

Not me. It's about facts vs speculation.

[Alice in Wonderland]

If Tracy Martin’s info is third-hand, wouldn’t Robert Zimmerman’s info be at least second-hand?

The date on the photo is 2009 ... Trayvon would have been 15. I wonder if he was in the AFJROTC.

[moehoward]

If Treyvon took that route too, then any notion of fear has to be dismissed. It would seem had he gone through there, he’d have turned right to go towards “home”, not turn left to circle back towards the ‘weird guy’ watching him. Also he was relatively new to the area. Zimmerman would be more likely to know he could cut through there and maybe get a fix on Martin again.

Alternatively, if George had done as he says and followed the maps direct route from C to E, then Treyvon jumping him on his way back to C, there’d be a lot of backpedaling and dancing away from Martin to get to F.

[TigersEye]

If Tracy Martin’s info is third-hand, wouldn’t Robert Zimmerman’s info be at least second-hand?

Yes. Have I ever said otherwise?

The date on the photo is 2009 ... Trayvon would have been 15.

Nice propaganda. Two year old photo of a much smaller kid.

I wonder if he was in the AFJROTC.

Is that your unsubstantiated speculation?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Just to be clear ... what are the “facts”?

[Alice in Wonderland]

I wondered if he was in the AFJROTC because my grandson is in the AFJROTC. He and the other cadets have similar coveralls.

[trappedincanuckistan]

Cboldt and PhatHead are my go to guys. I can’t keep up with the daily developments, and they have always seemed to know their stuff.

[TigersEye]

Just to be clear ... what are the “facts”?

The things you rigorously ignore.

[TigersEye]

I wondered if he was in the AFJROTC because my grandson is in the AFJROTC. He and the other cadets have similar coveralls.

I see. Just random brain-farts you're having that are irrelevant to the subject and of no interest to anyone.

[trappedincanuckistan]

TigersEye is good too.

[Paisan]

Thanks.

Words have meaning...

[TigersEye]

Thank you. I’m trying to keep up with this story but those other guys you mentioned are doing better than I am. You’re doing pretty good yourself as a matter of fact.

[Eaker]

25 years of Prosecution here.

It is spelled prostitution.