Soldier fired for Obama critique

iafrica ^ | 4-6-12 | staff

[W. W. SMITH]

Hey......The big “O” put out the word “can no one rid me of this noisy noncom” and some perfumed prince undertook the task.

[Theoria]

Yes, of course I have. Everyone knows, once you volunteer to join the military, you give up your ‘rights’ in exchange for the privilege of serving.

[W. W. SMITH]

What branch/unit. how long?

Me: twenty years never felt like a slave. Ran a business after I retired, found that I had more freedom to do my job on active duty than I had as a civilian. My service was in the navy.

[Theoria]

Army 10+. Now DoD civilian, 7+. When one functions under UCMJ, especially article 134, one has no rights.

[xzins]

It is definitely a possibility that the hint in other articles that he had not done his blogging on his own computer and under his own name could be wrong. In my opinion, had he done this under his own name with no reference to his status in the Marine Corps and on his own computer, then he would be in the clear.

If he is still charged and tried even as one who has not over-stepped those guidelines, then the government is wrong in their prosecution of this Marine. The old standards might have been changed, but the old standards were an effort at preserving as much as possible of first amendment rights for the military.

[P-Marlowe]

Personally I am convinced that this prosecution would never have taken place if the President had been Bush or any other Republican. The problem is that this Marine chose to publicly criticize “The One” and the brass were advised by the powers that be that ANY public criticism of the Megalomaniac shall not be tolerated.

If there were a draft or this had been during the Vietnam War and they threw out every soldier who publicly criticized the CIC, then there would be an epidemic of this kind of public criticism.

The fact of the matter is that this kind of benign criticism and expression goes on all the time within the ranks and within e-mails and blogs and it does absolutely nothing to deter morale or good order or discipline. If anything this prosecution will cause more deterioration in morale and good order than it could possibly help. Further it will become harder and harder to field a voluntary army if the public becomes aware of how severely the opinions of soldiers in the field shall be punished.

Nothing good will come out of this firing. Obama willnbe appeased. I guess that is the important thing.

[xzins]

Just between you, me, and the wall, P-M, if my president were a narcissitic, megalomaniac with dictatorial tendencies, the last thing I’d want would be a “career” army. That was Mussolini’s path to power.

Although it might rob some freedom...and the constitutional concept of militia mitigates this thought...a draftee just wants to do his time and go home. He doesn’t want to reward his overlord with the keys to the kingdom.

And being able to put a “pink army” in place is a very dangerous thing.

[brownsfan]

“They was wrong. The United States is a constitutional republic not a democracy.”

And you are so proud that you’ve learned this tidbit?