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Reports of suspensions paint more complicated picture of Trayvon Martin
South Florida Sun Sentinel ^ | 03/26/12 | Frances Robles

Posted on 03/26/2012 8:24:24 PM PDT by festusbanjo

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To: P-Marlowe
Clearly you misunderstood.
He couldn't have been clearer about the use of the word clear. Clear doesn't require and adjective.
41 posted on 03/26/2012 9:40:13 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe
"THESE PEOPLE are praying for widespread race riots. "

As someone who saw the Rodney King riots up close and personal, there is more truth in what you say than you might be aware of. The smiles on the faces of the looters said it all.

42 posted on 03/26/2012 9:51:11 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward
During the first Rodney King trial after the case was submitted to the jury my secretary came to me and asked what I thought was going to happen. I told her that the cops would be acquitted and that there would be a race riot. A couple of days later, the verdict came in and the riots started.

For some reason black people think that looting stores in their neighborhoods is a way to get back at "THE MAN". Interestingly "THE MAN" right now happens to be a black man (Actually he's an East African Arab Mulatto who pretends to be black).

I predict some kind of summer riots either over this issue or some other contrived issue and if Obama is not re-elected, then I predict major riots in every major city in the US.

43 posted on 03/26/2012 10:12:54 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Gingrich or Bust.)
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To: MHGinTN
How disgusting this must seem to reasonable black people.

I hope they outnumber the "moderate" muslims.

44 posted on 03/26/2012 10:28:42 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: festusbanjo

Zimmerman is cast as the “white man” in this little drama — yet, he’s half Latino. (I.e. as much Latino, as BHO is black.) If a “white man” had shot Zimmerman — Zimmerman would certainly have been given the role of oppressed Latino.


45 posted on 03/26/2012 10:29:36 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: festusbanjo

A true Son of Obama.


46 posted on 03/26/2012 10:49:43 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Graybeard58

I’ll say it again, if I ever find myself being pummeled by some young thug and I have a gun, he will be a dead young thug, despite whatever the Je$$ie Jack$on$ and Al $harpton$ of the world may think.
__________________

You and me both.


47 posted on 03/26/2012 10:53:05 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: rawcatslyentist; Mind-numbed Robot; festusbanjo
Clear doesn't require and adjective.

Rule 1. When correcting people's grammar, make sure you use correct grammar.

Actually "more clear" is a correct form of the comparative depending on the sentence structure and it's usage. When I said that Mind-numbed Robot could "not be more clear than that", then the usage in that sentence was perfectly acceptable grammar. Since there is no grammatical substitute for "less clear" than "less clear" then "more clear" is clearly acceptable grammar.

From a website discussing this issue:

Comparatives in English are all replacements for the standard "more". There are very few occasions when a descriptive adjective cannot use the "more" form (one of which is when you are already using a comparative, i.e. something can't be "more smaller").
However, more common in usage is to use the -er form, "clearer". Of course, when modifying a verb, the adverb form must be used ,"more clearly".
"Can I make the meaning clearer?" = "Can I make the meaning more clear?"

So have I made my point clear, or should I try to make my point even more clear?

48 posted on 03/26/2012 11:05:03 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Gingrich or Bust.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Clearly you could have made it clearer.

Without adjectives is the clearest way it can be.


*and* /bad spelling that doesn't show up on spell check, an is hard to spot proof reading. lol

49 posted on 03/27/2012 1:04:33 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: lightman
"The predators are furious that their prey are shooting back."

It's hard out there on a thug yo.

50 posted on 03/27/2012 1:54:52 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: festusbanjo

On Sunday, Trayvon’s mother said she hoped the momentum in the case leads to changes in the law.
“How the hell can our martyrs rape, rob, assault and murder people if they can shoot back?


51 posted on 03/27/2012 2:09:52 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: bobby.223
Your funny!!

In all this discussion about "clear", the grammar police haven't touched this personal pronoun in the retort. There is a difference in "your" and "you are" or "you're" in the English language!

52 posted on 03/27/2012 2:54:03 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: festusbanjo

Trayvon bought that jewelry at Freddie’s Fashion Mart.


53 posted on 03/27/2012 3:19:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: festusbanjo
Lest anyone think this particular portrayal of this "kid" is out of the ordinary, I recall the case of 16 year old Julius Johnson from Reading, PA, who was shot and killed on January 25, 2012 as he and two of friends attempted to mug a 65 year old man on a bike path, knocking him off of his bike and pinning him against a fence. This was the second mugging of the day by these three, as they had mugged two people earlier in the day in another part of town.

From the Reading Eagle:
The three were playing video games at Johnson's residence in the 200 block of Gerry Street when juvenile probation officers went there Wednesday morning to check on Johnson after his mother reported that her son was not in school.

Johnson was on probation for aggravated assault. He was participating in a weekend program at the county youth center that has juvenile offenders go into the outdoors and perform community service.

The probation officers ordered Johnson to remain home on electronic monitoring and told the other two, who had no juvenile records, to leave.

The trio left immediately after the officers left and assaulted and robbed two men in West Reading before heading to the trail, where they assaulted the 65-year-old.

Adams ruled the shooting justified because the man could not flee and thought his life was in danger.

Here are the pictures that the public saw on this predatory juvenile

And here is the way they described him:

Julius Johnson, 16 years old
September 19, 1995 ~ January 25, 2012
Thun Trail, Cumru Township shooting
Julius was a student at Reading Senior High School; where he was an active member of the Wrestling team.
He had a love for fashionable clothing and shoes; he had a style that was all his own.
He enjoyed listening to his favorite rap artists; playing Play Station or hanging out with his friends, and having A Good Time and while being happy with his Family.
He will be remembered for his picture-perfect smile; his vibrant personality, his swagg; the enjoyment he received in experiences offered when he attended the Holy Trinity Church, the Olivets Boys Club and the community Y.E.S program.

Not a word about his propensity for assaulting people and robbing them. I see a LOT of similarities here with the way Trayvon Martin is being portrayed by the media and the race hustlers. It is unfortunate that young people lose their lives, but when they buy into the thug culture, a young death is at the end of many of those paths. In the Julius Johnson case and the Trayvon Martin case, it happened before they could kill someone else.

At least that will be true in the Trayvon Martin case if no deaths resulting from violent protests in the aftermath, and that remains to be seen.

54 posted on 03/27/2012 3:29:05 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: festusbanjo

More Complicated? You Mean the Truth about the Thug


55 posted on 03/27/2012 3:53:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Enterprise
Why don't we see any recent photos of the Martin kid? We keep seeing those 5-7 year ago pictures with his “innocent” Obama like face instead of the thug pictures of today.

Probably not a good idea to post the recent ones since the image will look a lot different.

56 posted on 03/27/2012 5:36:24 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: festusbanjo

Apparently, suspension from school works in Florida the same way it does in Texas. Martin got a HUGE 10-day suspension as the suspension penalty increased for each earlier suspension. The difference is that he’d likely have been placed on a special campus where he wouldn’t have been missing 10 days of education (or at least the opportunity for education).

His parents neglected to bring Trayvon up the way they should have, and now they want to cry about his reputation. Given the big picture, it’s not surprising to me that Trayvon had some experience in being suddenly and extremely aggressive, as demonstrated in his fight with Zimmerman.

I still say that had Zimmerman remained in his truck, as he should have, none of this would have happened.


57 posted on 03/27/2012 5:45:12 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Clearly you could have made it clearer. Without adjectives is the clearest way it can be.

Not necessarily. It is clear that I could have made it less clear without using adjectives, but to be more precise it was necessary to modify clear by using more. I suppose you think you could have been preciser?

58 posted on 03/27/2012 6:10:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Gingrich or Bust.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I hate to disagree with the experts you reference, but just for the fun of it, how far do you go on the less clear side until you reach not clear? Can something be less perfect? Less unique? Is clear itself one of those words that cannot be modified, it either is or isn’t? Is clear a matter of opinion or interpretation? Certainly it is relative. What about opaque and transparent?


59 posted on 03/27/2012 7:37:34 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Progov
I pose a theory that the internet is causing huge problem for the left.

In the Tawana Brawley case in 1987, the information took a long time to debunk. The race hustlers got a lot of mileage out of it until the story fell apart.

In 2006, the Duke Lacrosse story broke. While the media was successful initially in their privileged white boy poor black mother crap, people on the internet did research, shared information, and it didn't take long before credible doubt was cast upon the whole story. The media stuck with as long as they could, and some of them came up with a couple dozen eggs on their faces.

Once again the media has tried to advance the storyline of a poor black boy and a white racist gunman. Along with the usual frenzied attempt to whip up the masses was a desperate attempt to scrub as much negative information about Martin from public view as possible. We know now that a lot of things are missing, but people on the internet still succeeded in finding unpleasant truths about Martin, as well as pointing out that Zimmerman is Hispanic, and he does not have a history of racism.

Once again, the left and the media, and even some so called fair and balanced reporters, and conservatives also got egg on their collective faces. The internet is too fast and too many people jump on it and in a relatively short period of time, the story crashes and burns. The media HATE THIS!

It quickly went from people being accused of treating Sharpton and his ilk as stupid and ignint, to people laughing at him, the other race hustlers, the media, duped reporters, Obama, and the clown organization otherwise know as the New Black Panthers. The ridicule became intense!

It is even possible that in some instances, the internet has saved lives. The truth comes out, although as usual more slowly than the slander, but it makes the jackasses look stupid and ignint and the violence potential gets blunted.

Another opportunity will come soon and it may be the one where the truth is even harder to uncover, and by then the entitlement criminals will have unleashed another orgy of murder, rioting, looting and general destruction.

60 posted on 03/27/2012 8:20:44 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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