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Trayvon Martin Killing: Friend Tells ABC News Howls on 911 Tapes Belong to Zimmerman, Not Martin
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| Saturday March 24, 2012
| Matt Gutman and Olivia Katrandjian
Posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:42 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: okie01
Ok. I was unsure of the reasons you had pinged me. I agree with your statements and questions. And yes - you know it's coming - please don't call me Shirley.
:)
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03/25/2012 7:04:06 PM PDT
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Enterprise
("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
To: okie01
There is confusion in this case between the terms "stand your ground," and "self defense." The "Stand Your Ground" statute in Florida defines the right of self defense where a dwelling is involved. In this case, there was no issue of Zimmerman defending himself in relation to any dwelling, so the "Stand Your Ground" law has no bearing. As I explained to others, even Zimmerman's lawyer has publicly stated that this is not a "Stand Your Ground" case. He said it is a "self defense" case.
Here is a link to the Florida Statute:
Title XLVI CRIMES
Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE
View Entire Chapter
776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html
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posted on
03/25/2012 7:53:24 PM PDT
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Enterprise
("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
To: Enterprise
Agreed. The issue is not "stand your ground". Instead, it is "self-defense".
In fact, I'm wondering who identified it as a "stand your ground" case in the first place.
Somebody had to make it a public issue -- if Jeb Bush felt called upon to deny that it fit the definition. And it certainly spawned a liberal movement to "repeal stand your ground laws".
Yet, it clearly doesn't apply to the case.
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03/25/2012 8:23:49 PM PDT
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okie01
To: okie01
Excellent observation. Liberals clearly don’t like the “Stand Your Ground” law, and are deliberately using this case to try to weaken it!
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03/25/2012 8:33:41 PM PDT
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Enterprise
("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
To: TheZMan
I wish it were so. I keep thinking if things get even worse than it is in this country, so many will have to see the light and admit they were wrong. Some are so brain dead/washed, they would never be able to admit they are wrong. Some are so prideful they would never admit it. Some are so deceitful and hateful they would never admit it. Some have an agenda like Obama and Sharpton that they will never admit it. Just like this case. It won’t happen. I’m hoping it will peter out once the steam is released—that’s if we are lucky.
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