Posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:49 AM PDT by tobyhill
“Remember that when the OWS hippies camp out on your lawn.”
If they are on my property, it’s a different situation from following somebody around with my CCW pistol.
He was not required to obey the instructions of the 911 dsipatcher. What Zimmerman did was not illegal, any more than the young man being in and walking around the neighborhood was illegal, where apparently family of his lived.
The key thing is the violence and altercation. Apparently Zimmerman gave up the chase and was walking back when he was attacked by this young man...who was getting the better of him and pummeling him.
At that point Zimmerman had every right to defend himself. Apparently, it was Zimmerman crying out for help on the tape.
If the young man initiated violence, it was illegal and irrespective of stand your ground, Zimmerman was entitled to defend himself. That decision to use violence was initiated by the young man...apparently.
But we have to let the facts come out and that is the real issue IMHO. Let the process work...we have a President and others immediately politicising it and convicting Zimmerman before he has a chance to defend himself or have due process.
Yep...all around.
It may shake out as legit SD. Or it may not. But surely you can agree that a “lesson learned” here is that a CCW holder puts himself into grave legal jeapordy if he follows a “suspect,” thereby initiating a series of events.
If the “suspect” pulls a J-turn back at his follower, the SD aspect is put at risk by the follower’s actions before the shooting.
You don’t see this? Really? Does this mean you suggest as a reasonable and recommended practice that CCW holders should follow “suspects” around and demand information from them?
You don’t see how this puts the CCW holder in grave legal danger?
You’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion I have on the events. Treyvon had been visiting his father and they were at the father’s fiance’s when Trayvon left to go to a store for tea and skittles and was on his way back to the father’s fiance’s home.
When Zimmerman stopped looking and was returning to his truck, the kid should have left well enough alone. Instead, it looks like he attacked Zimmerman from behind. I think they find that he was shot at close range because he was on top of Zimmerman, beating on him.
Wrong.... the recording is clear that he did stop....and even when he was persuing you can hear him and it was hardly a minute if that.
Watch can and does move to keeping the individual in sight, especially if he is jolting as this guy did....which is why Zimmerman began following him when he ran...., but when told not to do so he stopped. The converstion continues with directions on where he is and when to meet up with the police.
Might be good idea if you look at what is allowable and taught to Neighborhood watch members before you assume it only means watching...as well as listen to the recording of that conversation before passing even a minor conclusion of the matter.
Have a nice day, troll.
His attorney, Craig Sonner, finally spoke out to Anderson Cooper last night, and had few answers but one accusation -- his client has a broken nose and a laceration on his skull, and that was "an injury done by Trayvon Martin."
There were recent photos all over here last night but do not post pictures.
He had every right to follow Martin; he had every right to ask if Martin lived there; and, he had every right not to be attacked. Not one of Zimmerman’s actions was illegal. Martin’s actions alone were illegal.
Where are the photos?
Can you answer the same question I put at 86? Thanks.
I wonder if you’re putting too much emphasis on what a 911 dispatcher’s (I believe that very few of them are actual LEO’s, but I could be wrong) instructions carry legally. Their instructions invariably are to wait for the cops to arrive. I’m sure that there are hundreds of instances a year that crimes are averted by people who disregard dispatcher’s instructions to stand down.
This 6'2 guy was no "kid". And fully has a track history of missing school five days at a clip....what mischief was he up to then? Time will reveal what happened...all we're hearing now is vast mass speculation without evidence.
Those protesting this should be ashammed.
Touche’.
Er, excuse my French.
You stated Zimmerman had no right to ask Trayvon any questions. That is what I took issue with. No matter what questions Zimmerman asked Trayvon, he did not have the right to physically assault Zimmerman for some perceived disrespect.
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