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NBC: Romney Wins Illinois Republican Party [Romney Wins Big In IL]
MSNBC ^ | March 20, 2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 5:47:47 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: rodguy911
Sorry about the caps and the red. ;-)

The Mama Grizz in me was raging. A couple squares of chocolate later and I was fine. :-)

201 posted on 03/21/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: LibsRJerks; Norm Lenhart; Pelham
Your lack of voting only helps the Marxist. Great logic,don't get your way so you quit while others pull the wagon.

If you want to teach the RNC a lesson donate to each individual candidate instead of them. That works well. Dropping out because things don't happen fast enough for you only helps obama. And if you really don't see the difference between Romney and Obama there is not much hope for you anyway.

202 posted on 03/21/2012 6:47:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: true believer forever

“Well, there are many faithful thoughtful Christians who view Santorum’s personal rendition of the gospel of Jesus christ an apostasy.”

“he is about a gospel of works and self denial, of earned salvation”

Oh, ok. You are aware that Newt is Catholic too? Catholics, especially converts, reject sola fidae outright, because it’s unbiblical. As St. James says, faith without works is dead, and works without faith is useless.

As for Newt Gingrich - was Newt Gingrich not married in the Lutheran and Baptist churches, respectively?

Are you saying that those marriages were not Christian marriages? I’m not getting you - if they were valid Christian marriages, then how is Newt going from ‘unredeemed’ to ‘redeemed’? Wasn’t he always a child of Christ through all this?


203 posted on 03/21/2012 7:37:59 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: MissouriConservative

“abortion is a decision that must be made at the state level.”

“we are satisfied, upon a careful examination of all the cases decided in the State courts of Missouri referred to, that it is now firmly settled by the decisions of the highest court in the State, that Scott and his family upon their return were not free, but were, by the laws of Missouri, the property of the defendant; and that the Circuit Court of the United States had no jurisdiction, when, by the laws of the State, the plaintiff was a slave, and not a citizen.”


204 posted on 03/21/2012 7:41:36 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge
“He will lose.”

I am saying that I believe Santorum will lose to Romney in the primary. With last nights results and a string of states favorable to Romney comming up in the next month I don't see how a protracted, money burning primary could be in our best interest.

Starting from that point I believe that it is now necessary for Romney to pick Santorum as his running mate to consolidate the GOP. Anybody but Obama in 2012.

205 posted on 03/21/2012 9:13:16 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

And I believe that Romney will lose to Obama in the general. It does us no good to end the process now and nominate Romney.

“I don’t see how a protracted, money burning primary could be in our best interest.”

If it means defeating Mitt Romney, then yes, it is in our best interest to get a candidate who represents conservatives and can defeat Obama. Romney does neither. I’m not willing to support anyone who supported Obamacare or Mittcare in Massachusetts, and I’m going to fight Romney every step of the way.

Right now, RCP has Romney losing by 8 to Obama. Is this the wagon you want to hitch your ride to?


206 posted on 03/21/2012 9:35:30 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: rodguy911

I have to wonder how hollow an existence one must have, how utterly frustrating it must be, the self loathing one must endure, to wake up every morning knowing that fear rules one’s life. Fear of Obama. Fear of Liberals. Fear in standing up for what’s right. Fear of tackling the hard questions....

Since you ignored my questions, I have to assume you fear that answering them honestly would utterly wreck your party line GOPE worldview. That’s fine. You are entitled to believe and vote whatever way you wish...even to the detriment of what you claim to believe in.

As for many of us, we choose to pull up our big boy pants, believe in and act on the courage of our convictions in what is right and what is wrong; and not live and vote in fear like the whole of the Democrats we oppose.

Everyone at some point in their life has to pick the hill they want to fight on, and if they die on it, at least they stood up for what they believed in - pretty much the same spirit of the men who fought for, died for and created this country.

But if you want to support King George’s representative to the colonies, well, God save the Queen and all that rot.

I and many others are not going to join you.


207 posted on 03/21/2012 10:44:23 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: JCBreckenridge
Right now, RCP has Romney losing by 8 to Obama. Is this the wagon you want to hitch your ride to?

I just want to beat Obama and I will take any republican nominated.

By the way RCP has Santorum losing to Obama by 8.9% and Romney losing to Obama by 4.5%.

208 posted on 03/21/2012 10:53:36 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Norm Lenhart

That’s all great for a John Wayne movie dude but this is real life.Future of the country at stake,sometimes you don’t get your way.


209 posted on 03/21/2012 11:08:37 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: oldbrowser

I stand corrected.

Is 4 points worth selling out conservative principles?


210 posted on 03/21/2012 11:09:16 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: rodguy911

Fear sucks huh? And like our friend the Cheezeburger cat, you haZ it.

Perhaps instead of letting it rule you so thoroughly, you might reach around your back, locate your spine and straighten it, rather than cowering from your responsibilities as an American - AKA supporting the principles of the Constitution...”Dude”.


211 posted on 03/21/2012 11:17:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: JCBreckenridge
Wasn’t he always a child of Christ through all this?

Spare me. He was a child of Christ who sinned. It happens to a lot of us. Unfortunately, none of us are quite as perfect as Saint Rick (thinks he is) and his followers.

Sorry for the brief reply, but I no longer spend time trying to reason with santorum supporters, too stubborn, too sanctimonious, too blind; I hope you understand.

212 posted on 03/21/2012 11:40:35 AM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Is 4 points worth selling out conservative principles?

This is a good example of the saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

213 posted on 03/21/2012 11:47:38 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Nice strawman but it won’t work. You’re comparing apples and oranges. Yes, that was a state level decision, but at the time, slavery was legal in the United States at the time (federal level as well). Some states had decisions against slavery, some had decisions for slavery. That’s the way it’s supposed to work. States make their decisions and you live in a state that supports what you want. What you want is the federal government to TELL states what to do, which in your case is to ban abortion. But why do you want the federal government to have such power? Do you realize that if you get people in who will give you what you want, you establish a precedent, federal government as all powerful over every decision in your life. Then somewhere down the road people get elected to a majority and they don’t think like you...but guess what, they have that power that you let your friends establish. Now you have people who are opposite of you TELLING you what you can do with intimate details of your life.

I’m sorry but limited government must be for all, not just for those we don’t like. You’re no different than liberals if that’s what you want.


214 posted on 03/21/2012 12:26:39 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Newt in 2012.)
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To: TitansAFC

What can be done about that though short of a mad scientist inventing a mind control machine? I only have two ideas.

One, the TEA Party on a national level organizes a SuperPAC and raises a ton of money for it. They hold their own poll of members before Iowa asking them to pick one candidate. Then they finance advertising for that candidate no matter what happens...unless they get arrested for murder I guess.

Second, a new way of voting, ranked choice or scored voting. Forms of this voting have been done on local levels. The voters’ second choice, third choice, etc. would all be counted on the ballot. Or you could simply put a Yes or No by whichever candidate you like or dislike. Or you could score every candidate by Strongly Approve, Approve, Disapprove, Strongly Disapprove, in order to get an “approval rating” for each candidate. When that’s counted up we’d have a much more accurate picture of which candidates people really like. At that point you could award winner-take-all to the top choice, or assign delegates proportionally based on how well they scored. All of this avoids the problem of two very similar candidates splitting the vote between a similar group of supporters.


215 posted on 03/21/2012 2:54:21 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Grow up asshole. If anyone is afraid its you! STill stuck in the corner sucking your thumb since you didn't get your way. And now your are taking your marbles home and won't play anymore.

Like I said, grow up!

216 posted on 03/22/2012 6:29:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Rules of debate: Calling your opponent an azzhole pretty much forfeits the game. If that’s the best you can do, you pretty much lost the argument.

Fear. You indeed HaZ it.


217 posted on 03/22/2012 11:01:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: rodguy911

Perfect! And people who decided that being called an a-hole automatically wins a debate for them are those who have turned their constant labeling into positive reinforcement...


218 posted on 03/22/2012 11:08:42 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Ducks quack, shoes fit and labels become affixed to things that earn them.


219 posted on 03/22/2012 11:58:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Rules of debate: Calling your opponent an azzhole pretty much forfeits the game. If that’s the best you can do, you pretty much lost the argument.

Very true. But, calling your opponent stupid (in so many words), ... That's the stuff of genius, huh?

220 posted on 03/22/2012 12:10:31 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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