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What’s Wrong with the Conservative Movement?
Townhall.com ^ | March 11, 2012 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It’s quite simple, and boils down to two words:

1) Free
2) Trade

We’ve taken the side, of foreign competitors, against Americans. During a time of rising unemployment.

We could not adhere, to any worse political position.


3 posted on 03/11/2012 5:43:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Kaslin
What happens is what I call the peeing your pants analogy.

All the videos and hard work when it only preaches to the choir is like peeing your pants. For that moment you have a nice warm feeling. But shortly thereafter, you're left with nothing more than cold and wet clothing and no accomplishment.

4 posted on 03/11/2012 5:43:29 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Kaslin

We need to take over media outlets. Also, when we do have a foot in the door, forget this “fair and balanced” crap.


5 posted on 03/11/2012 5:45:15 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, not “we”. Only the progressives that lied to us and claimed to be conservative . . .


6 posted on 03/11/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Russ
We need to take over media outlets. Also, when we do have a foot in the door, forget this “fair and balanced” crap.

Hence my tagline.

7 posted on 03/11/2012 5:47:25 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the lawyers, FIRST kill the journalists!"- Die Ritter, die "nee" sagen)
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To: Kaslin

So much truth in this. He is a little more pessimistic on results than he should be. Our message does get out on a lot of issues, and in polling we are winning on a vast majority off issues in terms of public opinion. Even through this whole contraception manufactured controversy, 50 percent were polling with us...only 39 percent were for mandated coverage.

We have all but won the 2nd amendment issues, and we have done well to gain in the abortion issue.

Still, all the things the author are true, we should do so much better, and need to push harder in the ways he is saying because we often win the political issues but lose in policy because the will is not there to force politicians to stand behind the tough issues. For all the political capital spent since the midterm we should have something more substantial to show for it. Yes, the bleeding as stopped to some degree and we are now cutting a little instead of spending a lot more, but we should have used better techniques to score some bigger wins....like major reform of a particular department or something that we could have gotten the public to rally behind. Instead, Obama was able to reshape the debate as gridlock and lack of compromise, giving him a lifeline in the reelection year. Our messaging sucks and our ability to get the message out widely is terrible.


8 posted on 03/11/2012 5:51:40 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Kaslin
We better do something before it is too late.

Like Newt said, we are at a crossroads. This is very dangerous times.

9 posted on 03/11/2012 5:52:18 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Olog-hai

Ironically those progressives;

Globalist, interventionist, open-borders “free trade” fanatics.

Go by the name Neocon. Neocons, who started originally in the JFK administration.

Perhaps Neocons, are what is wrong with the conservative movement.

Full disclosure, this poster is America-first Constitutional libertarian in positions.

I believe in tariffs, an aggressive pro-American trade policy, and a strong national defense.

Which we would use ... sparingly.


10 posted on 03/11/2012 5:57:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Kaslin

I guess there aren’t many conservatives left - Romney and Santorum won again yesterday. Newt is the conservative pick in this race. Didn’t anyone learn from Dole and McLame?


11 posted on 03/11/2012 6:00:37 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Olog-hai

and there are plenty of social(ist) conservatives out there.. there are a number of them on this very site, those that wish to rule us, only from the opposite side of the political spectrum...


12 posted on 03/11/2012 6:05:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Kaslin
The problem is institutional and insurmountable.

The message is controlled by liberals because liberals control the message.

Why? Schools produce the practitioners of the media and the schools are liberal.

Why? Because the schools are funded by the government. We therefore have a self-sustaining parasite that will feed on the producers until they die and then blame them for dying.

To paraphrase, "Have another Tocqueville of sweet American freedom." for ze joke she is over.

Lock and Load.

13 posted on 03/11/2012 6:06:17 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: joe fonebone
Hear! Hear!

Those infected with "I'm smart enough to run your life and mine, too"-ism know no ideological boundaries.

14 posted on 03/11/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

smoot-hawley... yeah, let’s party like it’s 1929... free trade has nothing to do with open borders, globalism or interventionism, or any other “ism” you are trying to cram into your protectionist, isolationist attempt at policy.... head on back to the union hall, they are the ones promoting restrictions on trade policy...


15 posted on 03/11/2012 6:08:58 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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At the time of smoot-hawley America dominated world trade.

We were the world’s preeminent export powerhouse.

We’re not in 1929 anymore Toto.


16 posted on 03/11/2012 6:10:44 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I was in a debate with a fellow freeper about a year and a half ago... after much debate about the regulation of morals by the fed, this person said to me, and I quote, “ Since it is obvious that you have no morals, I have no problem forcing my moral standards upon you”.... now that is not only a scary quote, but a purebread socialist right there....


17 posted on 03/11/2012 6:11:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Kaslin
I'm sanguine.

Once Rick Santorum gets the nomination the wealthy conservatives will kick so much money into Superpacs (remember,the SCOTUS authorized the big money for all candidates) that the MSM will get filthy rich showing commercials that will defeat their beloved Obama.

The irony will be delicious.

18 posted on 03/11/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

do some research beyond what your brothers down at the union hall tell you... we are on the very edge of the great depression, have been for a number of years... all that is needed to kick it off is a trade war.... and by the way, who leads the world in exports and high tech????


19 posted on 03/11/2012 6:14:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

Commence the trade war.

At this point, we have the most to gain.

And the correct answer to your questions is: China now leads in high tech. We probably still lead in selling our own food.

China took the lead in high tech about a year and a half ago. And every trend, is in China’s favor.

Open your eyes.

Then take a moment to ask: What would Ronald Reagan do?


20 posted on 03/11/2012 6:19:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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