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Man who brought gun to school voting precinct frustrated after police called(MI)
mlive.com ^ | 28 February, 2012 | Heidi Fenton

Posted on 02/29/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by marktwain

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To: Jack Burton007
Wow... We'd never thought of that before. Thanks!

Now we can justify having our police forces and armed military folks carry ONLY concealed as we'd never want the bad guys to get the drop on them.

After all, if you LOOK weak and an easy mark, the bad guys would leave you alone and target the guy who looks like a threat...

Do I really need to add /sarcasm?

21 posted on 02/29/2012 1:26:25 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: marktwain
...to exercise his rights as a licensed firearms holder.
22 posted on 02/29/2012 1:40:18 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: Dead Corpse

LOL. I see your point.

But my point is that as a private citizen, it’s a better idea to not tip your hand to the criminals or they will use it against you.

When I carry concealed I know that I have the element of surprise. If I carry open then they just have to get the drop on me by shooting me first. They could even say it’s justified and some liberal judge would probably let them off for “defending” themselves against me. I could see that happening.

I would rather have the deck stacked in my favor than give one inch of an edge to the guy who is wanting my money or my life.

You deal with it as you see fit. I’ll do the same.


23 posted on 02/29/2012 2:03:41 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007
These arguments have been done to death over the last ten years or so...

It should be an individual choice. "Keep and bear arms".

I'd prefer to be able to do both as I see fit without having to worry about running afoul of some over zealous gendarme...

24 posted on 02/29/2012 2:18:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse

I agree.

Right now in Iowa, we are working on taking back our 2nd amendment rights.

In fact, the libs who hate guns ran from the job this morning due to the pro-gun votes coming to the floor.

They really are flee-baggers.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 2:23:44 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: stormer

Yet the ban on guns at schools failed to stop that school shooting. Irony is amazing sometimes.


26 posted on 02/29/2012 2:32:14 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain
...state school code states that weapons of any kind are not allowed on school property.

What is "state school code"?

27 posted on 02/29/2012 2:51:38 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: marktwain

In Texas it is illegal to carry a firearm into voting precinct regardless of whether one has a concealed carry permit. The only people allowed to carry firearms in a voting location are law enforcement.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 3:22:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: marktwain

In Texas it is illegal to carry a firearm into voting precinct regardless of whether one has a concealed carry permit. The only people allowed to carry firearms in a voting location are law enforcement.


29 posted on 02/29/2012 3:22:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Jack Burton007
I told him, you lose the element of surprise that way.

One who carries openly is probably less likely to be confronted by a criminal than one who carries concealed, because many potential attackers will decide that it's silly to attack when they know they'll encounter armed resistance, when they could simply wait and attack (hopefully) unarmed people after the armed people leave. The person who carries openly may well be at a disadvantage if a criminal decides to attack anyway, but the odds of that occurring may be slight compared with the odds of deterring the attack.

Either course of action could be right or wrong, depending upon the situation.

30 posted on 02/29/2012 9:44:44 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: supercat

What is wrong with guns in schools?

Works in Israel, Utah and parts of Texas.

This guy made his little part of America safer by being armed.


31 posted on 03/01/2012 7:26:33 AM PST by Geoffrey
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Either course of action could be right or wrong, depending upon the situation.

I will go you one further: Occasionally (but not always), ANY course of action could be right, wrong, or indifferent, depending on the situation, or not. Maybe. The results may be unpredictable, or entirely predictable. Or somewhere in between. Usually.

32 posted on 03/01/2012 7:34:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: marktwain
unworthy of licensing for such a right

Un-freaking-believable. I think "Chip Hoyboer" is "unworthy of licensing" for his 1st Amendment Rights. Or his Fifth. Or his Fourth. Let's just go take all of good ol' Chip's stuff, and say, "Sorry dude, you weren't 'licensed for such a right."

There is going to be a civil war. Count on it.

33 posted on 03/01/2012 12:08:01 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Jack Burton007

Show me one instance of an OC person having their gun taken as you talk about. Simply. Does. Not. Happen.

Criminals look for easy marks, not for people who show they will defend themselves to the death and are prepared to do so.

FWIW, I OC.


34 posted on 03/01/2012 4:33:10 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I did it by walking up behind my sister in law, I grabbed her pistol (she uses a low slung cheap swat style holster) and I yanked it out of the holster and had possession of it.

If you’ve ever taken a weapons retention class they show you that this can happen and does. There are numerous times when cops are killed with their own weapons due to this, and they have better holsters than my SIL or Step Brother do.

If you don’t think that criminals will go after armed people then you’re not reading the news. They go after armed police all the time. My 3 nephews are police and they have dealt with this more than once. It’s not as rare as you make it sound.


35 posted on 03/02/2012 10:15:23 AM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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