Posted on 02/17/2012 7:39:24 PM PST by red flanker
Post 202 has relevant information regarding McSally’s less-than-honorable service. Was on active duty when this happened and in the Pentagon where we investigated/reviewed her actions and career.
She is not someone you wish to support, as she did not serve her country, she served for herself.
Women have no legitimate place in ships at sea, flying combat aircraft or serving in combat zones!
The only reason they are doing so is because a cabaal of LIEberal women and soft men forced the military to “include” them.
Military combat effectiveness has not improved one whit since women went to sea, began flying combat aircraft or serving in combat zones.
And, improving combat effectiveness is the ONLY LEGITIMATE REASON FOR CHANGING THE WAY WARS ARE FOUGHT!
Well said!
Please see my post #282.
I would enjoy reading your comments.
Miss McSally’s comment that she like to kick Rick Santorum ‘in the Jimmy’ is unbecoming of an officer. She should hear and read Santorum’s comments, and then really critically think about them rather than just being critical. He is not talking about pilots but ground forces. But even if he were, there might be good points. Certainly there are women who are up to the rigors of ground combat, but what percentage in relation to men? The facts that men and women are not physically or mentally equal can not be ignored. And what about the logistics. Just imagine if there had been women at the Battle of the Bulge and they were menstrating. As a woman, I couldn’t just run behind a tree and change my protection, if I still had any. There were days when the cramps were extreme. But combat doesn’t stop for cramps.
There have always been women who found themselves in combat, sometimes by choice, sometimes when the rear became the front. But Santorum shouldn’t be kicked anywhere. Rather, how about a civil discussion. Perhaps they would both learn something.
Miss McSally’s comment that she like to kick Rick Santorum ‘in the Jimmy’ is unbecoming of an officer. She should hear and read Santorum’s comments, and then really critically think about them rather than just being critical. He is not talking about pilots but ground forces. But even if he were, there might be good points. Certainly there are women who are up to the rigors of ground combat, but what percentage in relation to men? The facts that men and women are not physically or mentally equal can not be ignored. And what about the logistics. Just imagine if there had been women at the Battle of the Bulge and they were menstrating. As a woman, I couldn’t just run behind a tree and change my protection, if I still had any. There were days when the cramps were extreme. But combat doesn’t stop for cramps.
There have always been women who found themselves in combat, sometimes by choice, sometimes when the rear became the front. But Santorum shouldn’t be kicked anywhere. Rather, how about a civil discussion. Perhaps they would both learn something.
I am a Army veteran. Women’s Army Corp and regular Army.
True, the Israelis do. Maybe we could find out how they handle it, but we already have women in combat. I was in the Army at a time when women weren’t supposed to be, but then the rear can become the front in short order, which is why were trained with weapons.
We’ve always had women in combat and in harm’s way, even though women weren’t supposed to be, which is why I was trained with weapons in the ‘70s in the Army. As another posted stated the Israelis have women in the Army. So your Muslim argument doesn’t cut it.
Women ferried fighters to the pilots during the war. You don’t think they got shot at?
We’ve always had women in combat and in harm’s way, even though women weren’t supposed to be, which is why I was trained with weapons in the ‘70s in the Army. As another posted stated the Israelis have women in the Army. So your Muslim argument doesn’t cut it.
Women ferried fighters to the pilots during the war. You don’t think they got shot at? Oh, and remember, men aren’t putting women in harm’s way, women are, because it is their choice.
She’s not a Democrat, just a Republican with a different opinion than yours or Santorum’s.
There are men who have been promoted above their capabilities, and there were problems. What was that?
How does a woman get promoted without the accusation of affirmative action? Can a woman ever be promoted?
US Army vet 1976-1984
1. Check the date of the letter.
2. Vote your official out of office.
Women have always been in combat whether they called it the rear or the front.
Pilots are different than ground troops.
US Army vet
Flying your armor and weapon is far different than hauling it.
I don’t agree that women should just be stay at home, in other words, ban them from the military. Would you take women out of the work force altogether?
This entire McSally thing is far less about gender based equality than it is about politically correct “fast tracking” of service members who, by virtue of their being of a “minority” or a female to positions of high visibility in order to “demonstrate” the military’s *oh, my gosh* true “commitment” to equality. I would be perfectly willing to wager that McSally was accelerated to her assignments OVER more qualified males. I remember the BS mantra we were subjected to at DEOMI – “Affirmative action does not have ‘quotas’ – it has ‘goals’ “. Utter, complete and unadulterated HOGWASH – then and now. As an analogy, remember when Rush Limbaugh made the comments about Donovan McNabb – that the league was very desirous of having a black quarterback succeed? Limbaugh was – again – correct. McNabb turned out to be a moderately talented QB who would have been best suited to be a backup somewhere in the NFL. He was a choke artist of legendary proportions, went to two other teams – was immediately handed the team captaincy, and failed twice again. (I’m no Eagles fan – although Chuck Bednarik was a hero to me – both as a combat aerial gunner in a B-24 in WWII and to a lesser, but still awesome degree in the NFL). Anyway, Limbaugh was figuratively CRUCIFIED for speaking his mind – which was also the bone truth. So, to get back on the real subject – PC people high up in the military making these types of decisions in order to placate the B. HUSSEIN Obama regime instead of making decisions geared toward military victory – PERIOD, are scum. McSally was the poster child for affirmative action during her military career and is trying to extend that into her political ventures. I said it before, I am also no Santorum fan, but this is not about the “jimmy” whining, sniveling comment the pampered princess made. It is about right vs. wrong.
If married women would stay home and raise the children, the value of their husband's labor would increase, and the pressure to have two incomes would decrease. Family life would be strengthened, the tendency for young people to get in trouble outside the home would diminish.
Would I take women out of the work force? Now how would I do that ?? Should it be done by law? No, of course not. Should Christian pastors teach once again, from the Scriptures, the value of women in the home? Of course they should.
I am coming at this, as I do in all of my posts from the perspective of a Bible-believing Christian, reflective of America's Christian history and heritage. If you do not believe the Bible, then my commends are lost on you, that's all.
The Scriptures do not prohibit women from conducting business or enterprise, or from laboring ; but the context of them doing so in Scripture (e.g. Proverbs ch. 31 ; etc.) is always in direct correspondence to family order---the women's enterprise always centered around her home and family, diminishing the affects of her entering into a "dual headship," working for a man, for example who is a different woman's head, not hers.
Thus the most consistent course with Scriptural principle would be a business in which the husband and wife, and children are laboring together.
Women in combat are working for their families. Her working “for a man” does not diminish her status. It is not a dual headship by working for someone. My mother worked as a beautician, and had her own shop at times, other times she ran shops. If I read you correctly, then she shouldn’t have done any of these things. Are you proposing that women shouldn’t be in the workplace unless they are working in a family based business.
God created woman from Adam’s rib (side) so that she wasn’t beneath him. She didn’t come from his feet. Although it is interesting that, all human life starts out female, and then splits to become male or female.
Currently, it take two paychecks. It would be nice if we were in the days when one check sufficed, alas, it is not the case. Even back in my childhood and youth, Dad’s meager Navy earnings didn’t fully support us. Whether working or not, the woman has value. It would be nice if she could stay at home. And of course there are those that don’t choose to stay at home. They still have worth.
Couples are partners. The man can’t always have his way, otherwise it is a dictatorship. God did not want that.
As I stated, things that are Biblically Christian are lost on those who do not believe the Bible.
Interpreting the Scriptures according to the contingencies modern man creates to, in his own mind, survive, is not believing the Bible ; nor does it bring the help of God on modern society or on our post-Christian nation. America goes it alone now without God.
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