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Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam

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To: patton

It’s one you can get to with minimal time and effort from where you are, with a support network already in place, family, friends, likeminded acquaintances. It’s one that has minimal threats and maximal potential to support your needs for the duration. Food and the ability to grow more, water, fuel whether that’s firewood or something else. A mild temperate climate and good soil would certainly help, but that’s not near enough for many.


101 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:31 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: patton; cripplecreek

Personally, if Cripplecreek doesn’t come through [pretty please], I have a plan to make it into one of the MANY land reserves in MI. I’d rather deal with a ranger than roving bands of hungry EBT eaters.

The one thing that everyone has to remember is that if it really does hit the fan, you won’t be able to use highways and most likely won’t have that much gas. We have to be able to get to our spot with one tank, pulling a camper.

Sometimes it’s actually better to hunker down where you are and look deserted. Break a few windows and throw some trash around your house, then sit tight until travel is safe. I know that the people across the street are armed to the hilt and duck hunters. They are accurate. We will team up with them.

I’m putting together some maps to get to places where we can sit for a day, if need be. If we travel at night our odds of getting anywhere are better. At that point, we will have three drivers and four people. We can sleep in shifts.


102 posted on 01/27/2012 7:41:11 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: patton

The ideal bug-out location is where you can live contentedly during normal times, and do little different upon TEOTWAWKI. “Bugging out” is best done in calm times, not when everyone else is attempting the same thing in a mass panic. Survivalism/prepping is best a way of life, not a contingency plan.

I like recounting this as an example:
When the potential severity of the “Y2K Bug” was looming, I explained to my father in great detail what could go wrong (societal collapse, etc.). He understood, agreed, shrugged, and replied “so I’ll throw another log on the fire and go back to my book.” Indeed, short of reading by candle light and hand-pumping the well, his life would change little in a “bug-out” situation.

The #1 rule of self-defense, a rule rarely discussed, is “don’t be there”. Ditto “bugging out”: on the whole, don’t be anywhere you’ll need to bug out of in a crisis. Life will change enough in such a scenario; minimize that change.


103 posted on 01/27/2012 7:43:20 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Good comment - I used to have a support network in such a location, but that ship done sailed.

So I have to look outward.


104 posted on 01/27/2012 7:51:31 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Salamander

If they make it past Suburbia, will they be stupid enough to head for Ruralia?

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Can’t be stupid when you’re dead.

From what I know about my metropolitan area (St. Louis), the hip hoppers won’t make it past the thick ring of iron that surrounds them in the suburbs.


105 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:18 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: patton

Your family being known and well regarded still carries weight in some places. Does here.


106 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:42 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: netmilsmom

We have plotted out location #1, for short term, and location #2, for a real TEOTWAWKI - and can get to both on one tank of gas. A big tank, I grant you - 600 miles worth.

Don’t need highways for either.

Of course, the best laid plans o’mice and men...


107 posted on 01/27/2012 7:56:15 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: ctdonath2

“don’t be there” - concur. Can’t retire yet, tho. Need to pay my dang taxes.


108 posted on 01/27/2012 7:58:36 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Those shirt-tail relatives are not in my immediate family. ;)

Patton is my name, not my rank.


109 posted on 01/27/2012 8:02:07 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: netmilsmom

There’s definitely some major advantages to hunkering down in these small towns. Everyone knows everyone else in town and in the surrounding towns, there’s security of numbers, we’re surrounded by farms, forests and swamps.


110 posted on 01/27/2012 8:04:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek; netmilsmom

“Everyone knows everyone else in town and in the surrounding towns”

And that may be an issue - one needs to provide value to the recieving community, or expect to be turned away.

A blacksmith, now - that guy would be welcomed!


111 posted on 01/27/2012 8:17:42 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton

I’m sticking close to my neighbor. He’s heavily armed, Has a small farm outside of town, and has some serious real world engineering skills.


112 posted on 01/27/2012 8:37:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: patton

>>A blacksmith, now - that guy would be welcomed!<<

A ham radio operator, with equipment and a generator comes to mind.

(maybe I need to look into that)


113 posted on 01/27/2012 8:37:46 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

EXCELLENT idea. Go with that.

Everybody is going to want to know what is going on.


114 posted on 01/27/2012 8:40:55 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: cripplecreek

Please remember us.

(smiles pleadingly)

Otherwise we’ll have to head up to TC and that won’t be much better than here....


115 posted on 01/27/2012 8:42:45 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: cripplecreek

You are already “in the community” - I expect, you will be among those telling others to move along.

Not to say that you are a bad guy - but survival sometimes demands hard choices...

If we ever get to Bug Out Location #2 in a zombie apacolypse, I fully expect that we will have to take it back from the locals.

Interesting book idea.


116 posted on 01/27/2012 8:45:56 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: cripplecreek

Felt things going in this direction years ago, bought a hurricane damaged cruising sailboat, cheap...fixed it up and moved aboard.


117 posted on 01/27/2012 8:46:00 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

You might want to read “Wolf and Iron.” GR Dickson.


118 posted on 01/27/2012 8:48:08 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton

The other thing that I read a while ago was having walkie-talkies that work. We have a set of four that are the same as our immediate neighbor’s. Telling your neighbors to use a set frequency (with a back up frequency in case of too much chatter) means that you communicate house to house without phones.

Believe it or not, I put them into the microwave in our camper. We are set for an EMP (I hope).


119 posted on 01/27/2012 8:48:40 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: patton

You misunderstood. Whether your name is Smith, Jones or what, your family being known and well regarded in a place carries weight still, in some places. Even if your family home is long in the past, your family should still be known if you’re all *from* there, unless they were just a pack of ne’er-do-wells, lol.


120 posted on 01/27/2012 8:49:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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