Penn State's Joe Paterno is gravely ill and nearing death, as his family rushes to his side

Pennlive.com ^ | 1-20-2012

[little jeremiah]

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

— DIETRICH BONHOEFFER

[cva66snipe]

That said, a powerful man like Paterno, with several witnesses (two janitors were mentioned elsewhere as well), and rumors abounding - what Sandusky was doing was not a dark secret - could have done something. He chose to remain working there for years, knowing that Sandusky was raping boys. Paterno chose to stay. His choice.

When you find a sanitized place to work please feel free to post it. Even churches have their gossip and scandals. You don't get it do you? If the AD and those over the AD knew about it as well as the campus cops and likely the CPS just who was he going too go too then? You can not make investigating agencies do their job. They don't give a rip if you have folders full of evidence and taped conversations. People with connections or the right lawyer can get by with about anything.

So tell me would you feel better had Joe lost his home and been left destitute due to a libel suit? IF you accuse someone of something YOU had best have proof. Joe did not have police powers. Joe had no proof. He had second hand info. He reported it to his boss. He like any reasonable person inexperienced in such matters like I once was, trusted those in higher positions who were supposed to do their job and deal with it too do it. They didn't. That was not Joe's fault.

I'll go you one further and a lawyer will tell you this much. Since it was a juvenile involved Joe would have not had or been in any way Privy too the outcome of such an investigation. The judges clear the court rooms in these cases except for those directly related too the case. IOW Joe could not have even sat in on the case. CPS investigations are also confidential.

It looks like someone had some high connections within the state too keep the case under wraps for a long time and Joe did likely realize at least that much after some time passed. The university wanted persons fired only after the story broke. Who above Joe was fired? How far up did it go? To the university president wasn't it?

In the meantime while people feed on the get Joe media frenzy {fired to created a diversion and satisfy the call for heads too roll}} the ones who's job it actually was who should have acted will likely never see criminal charges nor even civil judgment out of their own pockets.

[NittanyLion]

Thanks for the reply asshole.

[little jeremiah]

What do I know. I’m just a simple person. I’d rather be desitute and homeless than know that a (former?) associate was raping boys, that many people knew, and no one was doing anything to stop him or protect the boys. I’d quit after doing everything I could, and not look back.

But, I’m sanctimonious, holier than thou, and an asshole.

[cva66snipe]

No you are just very naive as to how these investigations go. Look, Joe had absolutely no way of knowing for certain who investigated what, who was cleared of what, or even names involved of all the accuser or if there were more accusers. This type of info is not released. The only one on that campus who could obtain that info would be in the campus P.D.

The campus P.D. because it would involve the investigation of an act against a juvenile would still be court ordered protected records. If Joe called lets say CPS he would get Zilch as too if it was investigated or not. If Joe had even reported something he saw and asked the outcome the response would still be Zilch. Even flesh and blood too victims of abuse beyond the birth parents are allowed only very limited info in a case and sometimes no info at all.

This is not as cut and dry against Joe as many make it out too be because a lot of persons have absolutely no idea how crimes against kids are investigated, how such an investigation is done and handled, and who actually gets the results of such investigation. CPS knows, a therapist might know, a foster parent unless also kinship will likely not know, the judge and LEO, will know and that's about it.

Joe had every reasonable assumption to believe the case had been investigated by campus police and other agencies. Those agencies may not even question him as he was not a witness too a crime. Joe also as such would not have been told the outcome but Campus security {which if I read right is a state level LEA} should have been told though and acted on it. Actually it was campus police duty too call in CPS. IOW they were after the wrong persons in this.