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Newt’s Night
The Corner ^ | 1/16/2012 | Seth Leibsohn

Posted on 01/16/2012 9:00:16 PM PST by TBBT

Newt Gingrich was as tough as nails, and deserved extra praise for not taking Juan Williams’s race-baiting. “No, I don’t see that.” Every person who believes in a color-blind society, especially tonight, ought to thank Newt for that. He then went on to show (again) he will be able to challenge President Barack Obama on nearly every fact and anecdote that could come up should they ever debate. The standing ovation he received was more than well deserved. To paraphrase a little: When he is right, he is great. The ongoing problem is when he is wrong. But tonight he was right — about a lot, and said it better than anyone.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: gingrich; juanwilliams; newt; newtgingrich; southcarolina
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Good night for Newt...

Will it have an effect? Maybe... Will it be big enough... Hard to tell. But I'm not getting my hopes up.

1 posted on 01/16/2012 9:00:22 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT
Another view from the Weekly Standard (same title as NRO article be different): Newt’s Night
2 posted on 01/16/2012 9:07:08 PM PST by TBBT
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I was very impressed with Newt, but I’m still very concerned that with SC being an open primary, that Democrats and Libertarians will try and boost Willard and RuPaul. There’s plenty of Democrats who can cross over and give Romney a boost and have the MSM claiming that he can win in the South, when in fact, he can only do so with the help of liberals. Those crossover voters won’t be voting for Republicans come November.


3 posted on 01/16/2012 9:07:17 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TBBT

Croud response is hard to reconcile with polls. I think Newt should be the One! Press seems to think Romney.

Romney is a FOP!


4 posted on 01/16/2012 9:12:57 PM PST by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: TBBT

You know Newt could have challenged Mitt to go over his 59 point plan in 90 sec and Newt would do his in 25 secs! Mitt would have been there 15 minutes trying to explain his!!!!


5 posted on 01/16/2012 9:13:03 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TBBT

Nice backhanded praise from the liberal Romney rag.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 9:14:11 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: af_vet_rr
I was very impressed with Newt, but I’m still very concerned that with SC being an open primary, that Democrats and Libertarians will try and boost Willard and RuPaul. There’s plenty of Democrats who can cross over and give Romney a boost and have the MSM claiming that he can win in the South, when in fact, he can only do so with the help of liberals. Those crossover voters won’t be voting for Republicans come November.

Democrats voting in Republican promaries gave us McCain. When can we stop this cr*p?

7 posted on 01/16/2012 9:23:47 PM PST by D Rider
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To: TBBT

As long as someone gets one vote more than Romney in SC then Romney can’t and won’t win the nomination. I’m a Santorum guy and I think he still has a chance, but if I were living in SC, after tonight I’d cast my ballot for Gingrich because he has the momentum to put Mitt away now (and then I’d go back to campaigning for Santorum)


8 posted on 01/16/2012 9:24:03 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: TBBT
Romney's greatest success in previous debates has been to just hold his own. That didn't happen tonight. He was clearly rattled. Now, whether that will pull down his numbers remains to be seen. Hopefully it will.

Clearly contradicted himself regarding his Super Pacs. Said he hadn't talked with them for months after previously saying he hasn't had any contact with them. Hope Newt can make some hay out of it starting tomorrow.

9 posted on 01/16/2012 9:24:23 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: af_vet_rr
I was very impressed with Newt, but I’m still very concerned that with SC being an open primary

Why does the GOP continue to permit this?

10 posted on 01/16/2012 9:26:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: TBBT

It was a great night for Newt! He is backing away from his love of the “Nanny State” mentality by explaining that one Union Janitor could be replaced by 30 school kids.

Although he barely got it inserted into the conversation Newt did say that Government Spending should be cut to meet income. So there is new hope for Newt.

I loved this statement from Newt to Juan Williams: “In this PC world, I know we’re not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable, but the fact is - - - .”


11 posted on 01/16/2012 9:27:19 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: montag813

Because the GOP doesn’t like conservatives.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 9:28:52 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Dick Morris, who’s usually the biggest Romney cheerleader in the world, just said on Hannity that Newt won the debate going away and he think he might win the SC primary. I had to ask my wife was a hearing things. That’s what the old toe
sucker said. Newt might win the SC primary.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 9:30:21 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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Newt would be beating Romney by 20 points in SC if the Santorum supporters would just give up and face facts. The debate tonight might have helped in that regard. Santorum was a boring and unlikeable as always, while Newt was freaking standing ovation amazing.
14 posted on 01/16/2012 9:32:49 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Newt, the Gotcha King got off a few tonight and everyone bows down. Not a quality on my short list of presidential requirements.


15 posted on 01/16/2012 9:41:25 PM PST by Srdubya
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To: TBBT

I sure hope so.I want Newt.


16 posted on 01/16/2012 9:43:39 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Graewoulf

The 4 years Newt balanced the budget were the only 4 years in I think the last 80 years or so that it was balanced. So I think he can be trusted to manage federal spending.

When Hannity asked Morris who won, Morris said “Newt Newt Newt.” Morris said it was a “classic vintage Newt Gingrich performance” and that Newt was “absolutely terrific.” He said Newt was one great debate away from getting back into the race and he had it tonight. He only criticized Newt for the first 20 minutes when he was still talking about Bain Capital. He said his “hunch” is that Newt could win the primary on Saturday, but he expressed concern that the evangelical endorsement could keep Santorum and Newt tied for 2nd place, which means Romney will win it.

I think it’s a shame the “conservative” media carried Romney’s water and bought into his line that the criticisms of him at Bain were “an attack on capitalism.” The question by the WSJ questioner was right on point in terms of getting to the heart of Romney’s predatory practices at Bain, although it was phrased in an incredibly soft way. I wish Newt or Perry had been able to express exactly what Romney did as clearly as how the WSJ said, but in a much tougher accusatory tone. Newt went on and on about “raising questions” but he didn’t take the time to cite those specific questions again.

The fact of the matter is Romney used questionable, abusive, predatory financial tactics at Bain such that even when the companies Bain acquired went bankrupt, Bain would not lose any money on them. Bain took out large loans in the names of the acquired companies and paid that money back to themselves as “dividends” and “fees.” This drove these firms, many of them already in a weak position, deeper into debt. Many of them did then go bankrupt, and couldn’t pay back those loans. But since Bain had already taken the bulk of the money borrowed on those loans as consulting fees, they got to keep all the money.

In at least one public case the creditor who was taking the loss on the bankruptcy threatened to sue Bain for “unjust enrichment” and Bain settled with them to some degree. But this was a pattern, the status quo of how Bain handled its acquisitions. Their business model was split between two things, turning troubled companies around to sell them later, which is good, but secondarily to borrow big money on all of these companies and then transfer it to themselves free and clear, knowing that the creditors could no longer make any legal claim to that borrowed money since it was essentially accounted for as a “fee” paid to Bain and therefore no longer an asset of the acquired bankrupt company.

3 of the 10 biggest firms Bain acquired went bankrupt, yet Bain themselves walked away with net profits on them anyway. That’s something that doesn’t happen to normal people in the real world. Normal people don’t get to take out a loan for a million dollars, declare bankruptcy and then keep the million dollars. But that is essentially what Bain did over and over again due to the tricky loopholes within the legal relationship between a parent company and its subsidiary.


17 posted on 01/16/2012 9:50:51 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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TexasFreeper is spot on. Newt has been good to spectacular in every debate. With every question, you can't wait for the answer because you KNOW he'll have one and it's usually great. He speaks with conviction, passion, and an awesome arsenal of facts. He is PRESIDENTIAL. Your pal Perry was fantastic tonight in a few spots, but he's the one you cautiously await to answer because you don't know what you'll get, and it's often quite mediocre. That won't cut it against Obama.
18 posted on 01/16/2012 9:54:41 PM PST by bramps (zero from zero is zero)
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To: JediJones
Nice lay down.

I thought it interesting also that Romney is more than willing to take credit for the companies that continued to be a success after he left, but willing to toss others under the bus for the ones that went south following his departure.

He is not a very intellectually honest individual.

20 posted on 01/16/2012 10:00:57 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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